Sunday, March 11, 2012

Get to Know your Technical indicators to use & keep aside....

Most would like to look at their technical indicators everyday for clues to "future price behaviour" which is like going to the doctor everyday to look at your future health problems based on ECG/ BP, etc..
Just as you go to a doctor when you are exhausted or your body gives out certain warning signals, go to "TA indicators" when markets look exhausted either during uptrend or in downtrend. For day to day monitoring the prices, trendlines/ channels as well as ability of the prices to stay above certain key averages/ emas would do.
There are many technical studies followed by the "Crowd" which moves the market and this crowd's behaviour is studied by "Elliott" and he charted the "Wave theory".
Moving Averages tell a story and they did it on 7th March when Nifty touched its 200sma and sensex its 50sma.
Trending indicator Macd and its relevance with Elliott wave would offer some insights into markets strength & its trend.
Why this man posts "stochastics", the leading indicator religiously every hour, day and on & on because it gives the early clues of an impending move with its structural changes.
Experience would teach you how to combine two Time frames and I have evolved in using this indicator and have added "Midpoint crisis". Find your rhythm with them and if it doesn't suit you, leave it. Life is too short to "sit around & complaining" but "just go & do it..do something"...sensibler than last time.

I also found 9 period Rsi quite useful in conveying the "undercurrent"... Understand this most important statement by "Robert Beckman"..."Markets are at their strongest after a sustained fall and at their weakest after a sustained rise". The trickiness comes when you have to figure out the "sustaining" part but experience would master it.
We have also used "DeMark" indicator whose essence is to depict the momentum by comparing the "Highs & Lows" and they have not failed at all.
So instead of asking "What are your indicators saying today?" or "this Hour?", ask only when trending prices show signs of exhaustion, "Have the oscillators reach the bottom & are they showing divergences?".
If you can show some patience to "sit through" this intermittent period, you'll gain and Get Rich Slowly & Quietly.
The complete package is available in Applied Technical Analysis.
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Reader's Query:
I have a request, if time permits, can you guide on one of your postings, as to how to develop "patience" with respect to trading. I mean, when we have a right position, we are supposed to ride it strong to extract the maximum. It is possible with only patience.
Whereas the new traders, take profit at prematured levels but stay tight on a wrong position for the turn around, end up huge losses.
In this aspect, I would be very thankful if you can shed some light on developing this patience
"to ride profit long and cut losses short".
Suggestions:
1. Always take minimum 2 lots so that part booking makes holding easier.
2. Your studies, whatever may be they are, will have parameters or conditions for holding, exiting & even target prices. You need to believe in them with an objective approach. People will call you a "patient trader" when you steadfastly follow your studies.
3. Never take a position and then look for justification to hold. This is "subjectivity".
4. "Objectivity" is something which you can recommend to the "die-hard critic" and stand by your observations.
5. When your number flashes on the screen, act.
For eg: The Tech.Table has certain basic criteria to holding positions, trading positions, likely targets or trailing a position. If you are a believer of the "Tech.Table" (which is nothing but just prices & its manifestations), then you take a position for a trading purpose initially and if the prices graduate to a "close above CEma", you make it positional. "Part booking" along the way is what will make you confident of "Holding".
Most traders' dilemma of holding a wrong position emerges mainly because of the "
conflict with time frames". It has been my early experience that as you get closer to the market, the "intraday prices" swing so much in corrective phases that your "day trend gets overshadowed by the Hour trend" and you end the day with a position created from intraday,but wrong based on Day trend. Hence, it is very important to "play the intraday trading with pivot points" and close them intraday only unless on those reversal days when the prices affect the day TA.
It is a matter of conditioning your mind to the numbers that are relevant & it is also called discipline.
Ask yourself..
"Would you enjoy losing all the money in disbelieving your studies or
risk small money believing in your studies and gain all the wealth".
After so much of studying & back testing, my critic said, " Isn't it very simple to make money in the market by just following 5 day average".
In the final analysis, it comes down to "how much you want to extract from the market... some or most of it or all of it". Tortoise still wins despite all the technical advancements.

34 comments:

Smita said...

Many thanks for your continous guidance sir .

Warm Regards
Smita

Anil said...

@Sir,

Thanks for this timely post...

Dinesh Rishi said...

Camarilla Secrets levels of Sis Revealed

Key in OHLC and get trading levels

XL + PDF file attached
check mail from justnifty@googlegroups


PS :I dont use this
as its not a complete trading system

:D


Have u done EE today?

Unknown said...

Thank you sir for this wonderful post
@drsir thanks for sharing

vksoni said...

ilango sir and Dr sir thank you very much.

vksoni said...

EE done

Akash Patel said...

hello sir
nice weekend teaching
I am jnsar positional trader. I can find entry and sl from your esteemed DJNSAR. I always trade with three lots. part book in two. but sometimes I feel I get down from train early. is there any more accurate method to decide target or levels combine with jnsar. the last lot imp me because I booked in them regularly. so I want to make maximum on last lot. thank you.

Smita said...

Sir ,
My observation ....
If we see the nifty hour chart with slow macd ..we can see all three signal
1.Positive Divergence
2.Bullish Moving Average Crossover
3.Bullish Centerline Crossover

Yogavidya by Parimal Devnath said...

Dear Master
humble salutations and gratitude to your astounding depth
in knowledge. you are an icon, an accomplished Master
on your own right. you are the science and art of technical
analysis. thanks for teaching us on Sunday.
today i gained on more of confidence
best of regards

Yogavidya by Parimal Devnath said...

On daily chart of NS, 9RSI has given a positive divergence on
7th March and is confirmed on 9th March as well.
Stochastic has also given positive divergence on daily
chart of NF on 7th March and confirmed by price action
on 9th.
i am mostly positional, so i refer to daily chart and also
hourly chart for direction

Nilesh Patil said...

Thank you master for such a wonderful teaching.
Hats off to you for such a best write up for us.

Thank you DR sir for Camrila xls sheet.

Kumar Technicals said...

Dear ILango sir!

Thanx for this important & useful write up.

buggie advani said...

Sir thank you.........
like most off us I get off the train early
and dont know when to get in
I am long as off Friday
Accidentally i miss read the tech table and
went long once it crossed 5326 D JNSAR for Monday
Lucky me
cheers

Unknown said...

|| Thanks Sir ||

Bala C said...

Dear Master Ji,

Please accept my sincere thanks for your valuable time and advice to address my request. I shall follow and feedback.

Unknown said...

"Most would like to look at their technical indicators
everyday for clues to "future price behaviour" which
is like going to the doctor everyday to look at your
future health problems based on ECG/ BP, etc.."

Follow the TREND, No predictions....

Start to end,,, the best,,,

read, read, read,,,, to unlock,,,

“Your work is to discover your work and then, with all
your heart, to give yourself to it.” – Buddha

SJkolkata said...

Dear Master,
I have been a silent observer of this blog. Have been in markets since 1990, but the scope of knowledge is so far superior that it answers everything going in ones mind.
People around here correctly call you God or Guru (master), cause u can read what's running in the minds of the bloggers. My observation is that u were completely silent on Friday, when there was so much of noise and conflicting comments, but here comes your crunchy reply as a slap( teaching for disciples).
So effortless and so much devoted to teach others and point to their mistakes. It's an old saying in markets, which I also follow " markets are a sea of water, there is share for everyone, it's only that you take a dip and take out as much as you are capable of". There's nothing called 'only ME'. And you prove from your sharing this old saying. There's nothing to hide if you are 'objective' and you have the guts to argue with the worst of die-hard critics.
SALUTE.
If the seniors feel fit, pl add me to the yahoo group, I will feel blessed.

Regards

eevra said...

thanks SIr

shriram said...

Illango ji,

Am smiling end to end reading this post.

thanks for responding to my request sir,

one more tiny request , pls also dwell upon F.MACD (5,10,9) & S.STOCH & 9RSi in the next tutorial :-)

urs
SMO

Sujatha said...

PS :I dont use this as its not a complete trading system "according to me"

DR -ji add the "above 3 words" :D :) y the 3 words as "u people r born brilliants and intelligent" can understand "any damn technical parameters and system" so it's "silly for u" :( :P

PS : hope u remember S4 5306 level. I bet now H1 weekly will give H5 of "dear cam"

Unknown said...

Tech. Table from experience, Discipline from self,,,
and BELIEF.....

Follow the rhythm of the market....

Thank you for sharing the experience in simple terms.,

SJkolkata said...

Dear All,
Feel like taking admission in a new class where there are already so many good students, along with teachers favorites, like Shriram, DRsir, Kumar sir, Parimal, Sis(Sujatha),........the list is endless.
Feel so unsecured and jealous, that I may not get the right attention.
:(
Regards

JEEVAN said...

Dear Ilango ji,

Pranam.

Thanks lot for sharing this educational post.

Even a person with poor knowledge can improve his
or her trading performance by following this single
post. No doubt this blog is an OCEAN of TA and EW
study.

I appreciate this line in your post
by Mr.Robert Beckman that....

"Markets are at their strongest after a sustained
fall and at their weakest after a sustained rise".

Wish you Good Luck. God Bless You.

Many Regards.

Jeevan.

Nilesh Patil said...

@sis,
Your H5 will defiantly come in next week. Because JNSAR
will trigger tomorrow.

Nifty futures said...

thank you master for this line... it will just add one more attributes to my character..

Life is too short to "sit around & complaining" but "just go & do it..do something"...sensibler than last time.

Sanjay said...

Namaste Ilango Sir & Blogmates,

Bulls are back with a Bang, but will they able to sustain: Option Analysis for 09-03-2012

Yearly, Weekly & Monthly Profile Charts and Values

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Thanks & Regards,

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chetas said...

Masterji!

In the fibo table, you have included both 5630-5268 and 5630-5171, why we need fibo levels for 5630-5268, when the market has fallen to 5171, for EW calculations?

Yogi said...

Hi Ilango,

Thanks for this wonderful post. I hv been following your blog for more than a year now (when tech table wasnt locked :) ). Anyway, I firmly believe that 2 timeframe reference is a great guide.

Your blog made me realise the potential of divergence, and I follow it by heart. Although, I tried my hand at Elliot wave theory, but that isnt my cup of tea.

It took sometime for me to crack JNSAR (Dont worry I m not letting it out...I swear, it's yours). But yes, I really like it.

All in all, your belief and selfless sharing has made people like me believe that yes, we can also make money in market.

Thanks a ton

Anjan said...

thanks a lot Ilango sir. now clocked over 2300 pts by following jnsar religiously. more than jnsar it is the discipline that you have thought us, goes a long way. if somebody cracks jnsar it doesn't guarantee success. a super computer doesn't make a person intelligent.

SANPOT said...

Good Morning Ilango Sir and all. I cannot locate today's
Pre Market view. Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance.

San said...

Sunday post Rare but always special Sir

venkatapathy l said...

Namaste Ilango Sir and fellow bloggers.

Today's post is marvelous.

Thanks and regards,

LV

venkatapathy l said...

Sir where is today's TT?

LV

SAM said...

Happy Rangpanchami to All and Specially to those who are from
Maharashtra. (Rangpanvhami is celebrated in
Maharashtra Specially)

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