Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Nifty Intraday Update-II


41 comments:

Ilango said...

@ bizagra,

If you are right, prices would confirm it.

5222-24-21 hr sma.

STOCK4SURE said...

ns is trading in upsloping chanell but 200ma in 5 min
charts is sloping downwards

manytimes have seen that this becomes a setup for a
fast fall

no rules just small observation

STOCK4SURE said...

near 5.88 lakhs unwinding in 5400pe??

is it just profit booking or big down move anticipated

shriram said...

@ Aly:

Thanks for ur insights, key is to Develop a Statistical Model based on the PRICE DATA
& work out Probability

A GOOD SYSTEM WILL ACCENTUATE TRADE PROBABILITY (% successful ENTRIES) & GIVE FAVOURABLE RISK -REWARD,

tats the learning for today :-)

Anil said...

@STOCK4SURE

u r talking abt this month 5400 PE, no premium left in that why would anybody write it..watch next series going buildup in 5300 PE...in 5400 PE march it is unwinding and shifting to different bases going on...

The_Unprejudiced_Observer said...

Triangle broken on the upside.... must cross 5235... Otherwise whipsaw??

STOCK4SURE said...

IT index weak so possibility of bank nifty may show
upmove

santej said...

again a new high on tata steel n LT :s

SJkolkata said...

Tatasteel on a move.
Master, is it indicating something.
Regards

Ilango said...

Tata steel is leading the way "UP" since morning.

Aly said...

@ shriram

yes but i think that you should remember that it is possible to develop a system which can give good risk reward ratio with high probablity of trades but it is not possible to develop a system which can give you 100% or even 90% / 80% results. because if that would have been the case, then a lot of people would have already developed it and would have been using it and then majority of people would gain. this is a contradiction becasue if everyone was to gain from market then who will lose??? and if nobody loses, then how will gainers get their gains

that is why i think it is more important to be DISCIPLINED rather than looking for a very good system and that is one of the best part about this blog. Though we have a system named JNSAR, people are free to follow their own systems but illangojis focus is always always on teaching discipline to his followers.

I am myself deficient in discipline (typical trader who keeps on piling loses but cash out at small gains :( )and trying to learn this aspect from illangoji as much as possible

In my view, this is what differentiate smart traders then people who keep on losing money in market

Ilango said...

@ SJkolkata,

It is the "timing" that is difficult to pin down.

It has mostly led it.

Accordingly Nifty too could do it either today or tomorrow.(One day lag also noticed earlier)

An Hour close above HHEma would be 1st indication.

Today's spread has been quite thin - just 33 points. Nothing much could be read with this.

STOCK4SURE said...

analyst saying ns may not break below 5200 on moneycontrol

shriram said...

hahaha.. ALY

Very true, that has been my story too :-D

Now I have a very funny self-psyching way to avoid it
Call it being ROBOTIC.. Whenever initiating a TRADE, I first dissolve the "ME" & place a 15 pts SL , NO MATTER WHAT !

And its helped tremendously ever since I have come across JN, all thanks to Illango ji :-)

Aly said...

@shriram (contd...)

and by the way you need to be only 50% right to make money in market provided you have Discipline (for e.g. if you have stop loss of 20 points but cash out at minimum gain of 50 then even if you are only 50% right, you still make money.

~ all this is easy to preach (which is what i am doing) and hard to follow (which is what i am trying to do)

Ilango said...

80% of the fall from 5236.45 to 5209.2 is "5231", the intraday reversal point.

Akash Patel said...

what is Tata steel jnsar? anybody? thanks.

suresh said...

454.48

Aly said...

@ shriram

yes i think that is the way to do it. being robotic, having a small stop loss. alll we need to do is identify a system, backtest for some time, find appropriate stop loss and expected rewards and mechenize our trading to it

wish you luck so that you are able to follow your system religiuosly

Ilango said...

Tatasteel JNSAR: 454.48

STOCK4SURE said...

bank nifty,It index and midcap inex all at res of
55ema in 5min charts

Ilango said...

@ anmpatel,

For stock's JNSAR, refer Stock wealth

Akash Patel said...

hello sir, simply marvelous. nifty returned from 5230-1.
sir, can you give some idea. how to use filter in stock for jnsar. same as nifty 0.2-0.3% or some other strategy? thank you sir.

Akash Patel said...

@suresh
thanks.

Ilango said...

@ anmpatel,

It'll not be proper to give a % off-handedly without me having studies them, practiced them.

I suggest you to choose few heavily traded stocks and observe how they fare closer to JNSAR and then arrive at a filter suitable to the stock.

Remember also, whipsaws could still come in despite a filter but they will be lesser with filter.

Crorepathi said...

Myron Scholes- Who got Noble price for Black-Scholes model for pricing options, founded a company LTCM which used complex mathematical models to get best returns out of markets.
Eventually they made loss so miserably that FED had bailout $3 billion to avert a wider collapse.

Simple approach with discipline only brings fortune. Market is like spirituality where you learn to take control of internal to get result external.
I say this with conviction because am one among few who's making money consequently for at least a year, i could easily be disciplined because am doing meditation for a decade

Akash Patel said...

@ilango
thank you sir.

Ilango said...

Tata steel has triggered JNSAR.

Anonymous said...

Crorepati good feedback

Akash Patel said...

yes master. three times. after first time triggered made high of 454.8 then back to 453.8 and now trading above 455

Anil said...

Bank nifty breached todays low..

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jayant singh said...

Cam LL4 level held ... now moving up

jonak said...

a big down move ahead....corrections like these always move within FIBO bollinger bands...13 , 34 ...right now 13 period Bollinger band is wirking well....and the lower level is at 5165 in April futures contract ...we should be reaching there , most probably by Friday ...and that
means NS should touch 5110 area...these bands can move down a bit as we go down ...

Aly said...

@ crorepati

well said with right example

people who visit this blog come here for numbers and easy way to make money but dont realize that there is no easy way to make money.

I think illangojis most important teaching to his students is about Discipline only

Abhi said...

FTSE & Hang Seng recovering.

shabsaif said...

After continue 5 trading day, making century (More than 100Pts swing) by NIFTY Bhai , today there is some tuk tuk , Half century made till now….lets hope …today no more four and six….

AU said...

Observation: a-wave up move lasted for 44 trading days.
0.618x 44= 27
today is 25 the day of correction, so this b wave should end by friday.
C-wave should start from monday.
I know its a looney logic but worth considering to study fibbonacci.

SAM said...

If we consider avg 100 points movement possible for today..

then 5247-100=5147 (NF)

Lets see

Ilango said...

New Post Done.

SAM said...

@Ilango Sir,

What would be SL for JNSAR for Stocks..??

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