Monday, July 19, 2010

Nifty Intraday Update-II

50 comments:

Fire said...

Ilangoji,

Thanks. Learning from you as always. Another question, what would be the invalidation point of the 5th of 5th possibilty? And if any new high gets counted as the "b", then would it be an Irregular correction? If its a B wave or a 5th of 5th, what are the min. and max. expectations for both? Perhaps disturbing you too much but begging your indulgence.

wealth creator said...

@ fire

Technically, i am also looking for sir, like what could be maximum possibilty for bulls, is there is any. Also, my broker is making hue and cry to everyone of his clients to go short or to sell delv holdings. If it is same scenario at other brokers also??

Ilango said...

@ Fire,

I just can not say the maximum as Nifty has been oscillating in a band of 4500-5400 for a while...long long time.

Besides those two bullish scenarios, other possibilities too exist depending on price unfolding.

Similarly the bearish scenario too in contention - the bounce off 5357 lows after a 5 wave dn from 5453 may have got over and a fall to 5310-5330 if 5365 broken.

And deeper correction to 5270 - a weekly channel bottom or lower to the next bottom @ 5200.

Coming to your current question: 5th of 5th, if there is, may go up by 110 points(from the 4th low -yet to confirm) as per the equality to 5th.

Irregular "b" could go higher by 10-30 points more than 5453.

Piyush Sharda said...

sir,

will buying of aug puts of nifty and bnf will be
a good idea?

Ilango said...

"5380-5385" is holding presently for a "Low risk Long" here with a S&R below 5380.

If this upmove stalls @ 5395-5405 again, Sell.

bizagra said...

Ilango sir , yr view given for intraday or conservatives also?
Thanks

Sunny said...

hi dear sir ,
this nf velue or nf spot?
alpesh

Ilango said...

@ PS,

Buying Puts of August is based on certain aggressive readings(breadth, OB, -ve div) and not confirmed by prices yet. If you buy them, You should manage them well with position sizing and Sl.

Janak said...

Ilango Sir, if one wants to keep NF long for tomorrow - what should we think about that 23 hrs NF trading? because, here if the market closes at 5430 (for eg) - by tomorrow morning, it may have gone 100 points up or down....

Ilango said...

@ bizagra,

It is for intraday only.

@ alpesh,

All are spot levels.

Local said...

Some more on the new trading hours - its for a different kind of dollar-valued nifty future: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/indices/Nifty-futures-to-be-traded-on-Chicago-exchange-from-July-19/articleshow/6173268.cms

And it shouldn't really affect us - its a deal between CME Global and NSE:
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_nse-chicago-me-in-cross-list-deal_1357810

mo h said...

yoda, hi,
this info is very supportive and informative
:) ty

Piyush Sharda said...

thank u sir

Fire said...

Ilangoji,

Thanks a lot. To my understanding, if Nifty breaks 5365, then B got terminated @5409 and C unfolded for tgt of 5312, if A=C? Is it right?

On the other hand, if 4th wave low gets confirmed @ 5360, then we get a tgt of 5470. In case of an irregular B, it may get @ 5460-80. So can we take positional shorts with a SL above 5530 levels if Nifty reaches 5460-5480 levels?

Ilango said...

@ Janak,

Trade by your method alone.

"23 Hours trade" or not, things will remain the same. We have had gap downs and ups.

Gold has been traded 24 hours. Oil is traded 24 hours. We have stocks with underlying of gold & oil.

My point is why worry over "things which are beyond our control". Some may manipulate it few times. It may affect the very short term traders a bit. Positional traders will not be affected. If that happens, we will evolve in the new set up.

Ilango said...

"Euro" is impulsing up.

Ilango said...

@ Fire,

You have got it crystal clear.

About selling @ 5460-5480, "we will cross the bridge when we get there".

wealth creator said...

@ sir

Your green messages also make market lusture green.

Also, i am long in nifty 4 lots ,from last 3 days , but not able to trade it. For very short term, can you devise a plan.

Fire said...

Ilangoji,

Thanks for the undeserved encouragement.

Local said...

hi mok,
Good to see your browser is working today as well.:)

Saif said...

there is put writing shifting to 5400 strike after 5300 strike has been fully written (nearing 1 crore on 5300 puts)..higher side 5500 calls still hold max OI (more than a crore)

mo h said...

intermittent here yoda,
in these hiccups i forget to wish
friends and ilango sir,

mo h said...

good afternoon Sir,
and friends

Ilango said...

@ Mok,

I have reduced the posts to Two for easy access. If trouble persists loading, will further reduce it to "one".

My critic, Shivaprasad, keeps telling me to "avoid wishing" & get straight to the point.

I tell him, "most of them do it also to let everyone know their presence".

POWERTRADE said...

The set up today seems not that much encouraging ......... the hourly charts are no showing any buying momentum ......

mo h said...

conflence of 5hour lowema 5384 5dayema 5382 supporting and the 5hourema 5394 5hour higema 5403 3day highema 5404
making the limits :)

Anil said...

@all

HOurly BB squeezing, a large move ahead..watch it closely...

Fire said...

http://www.cmegroup.com/market-data/delayed-quotes/equities.html

Anonymous said...

Dear ILango sir!

I have a Nifty put, what i shud do? I bought Nifty but unable to trade, can u help me? What is ur view on Reliance etc. Sir if u will not give a bitter dose, nobody will try to take help of ur precious table. kindly give a strong msg to everyone including me to avoid these kind of childish questions? Sorry for my msg if i m wrong?

Rgrds,

KUMAR

Fire said...

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/international-index/emini-sandp-cnx-nifty-50-futures_quotes_globex.html

mo h said...

Sir,
i think blogger plays a role in these intermittent access also.
some problem at google level, sometimes the loadings very lengthy.

greetings, :) point taken sir, among family one can rush in and get on with doing what one needs to, with the greetings always an understood undercurrent :)

rochak parekh said...

HELLO FRIENDS
RAJESH EXPORTS & REL CAPITAL tgts also met
. 6 calls in 24 hours time, all hit tgts.

rochak parekh said...

this is the power of volume to price , analysis

Ilango said...

Bull reading the intra chart:

Correction to the upmove from 5363 to 5409 ended at 5380 and a new upmove is on.

Bear reading the intra chart:

A 5-wave down is over from 5409 to 5380 and a corrective "abc" in 3 wave form over @ 5399 and a next down move is on.

Both are right so far. Now in the next move, one of them will disappear.
"5385 - 5405" would decide that.

mo h said...

:)
this is the kind of presentation [sir's green box above] that RV will be happy to snatch on at a future date and compile for a future presentation of a future cake :)

assortZ said...

Kumar,

Not everyone here is a matured traders and lot of new people visit here every day..they can start with those kind of conversation only. In due course, they will for sure understand that this place is not for what they meant but it offers something new.. they will also understand what kind of questions deserve answers.. it will all happen slowly..so, pls be calm :)

Above statement is my personal experience..:)

POWERTRADE said...

Thanks a lot sir ..................

wealth creator said...

@ sir

thanks a lot for your last message, to make things crystal clear. As of now, as i holding longs on weekly basis, market is not enough margin for exits.

Your last message made things crystal clear. Thanks

rochak parekh said...

fresh buy suggested, please visit my blog
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golfdude said...

Just a thought...

The market uses the majority of the traders as a contrarion indicator.

Local said...

Market should shoot up now.

Local said...

I've got one surefire indicator for a move up - though it sounds a bit weird.:)

When the BB collapses but forms a bird-head-like formation, it's going to go up. If it looks like a reversed nike-whoosh, it goes down. How's that for TA?:p

wealth creator said...

while Infy is supporting the markets, RIl is dragging it down.

mo h said...

Yoda, BB compressions do say a lot, the direction when expansion comes depends.
Definitely wont say weird :)

Piyush Sharda said...

@ yoda

if it rises its good.

Bhavan said...

Sir; it is perplexing to know that with such significant buying volumes from the tick charts of pib the NF is not showing any corresponding rise. Could you please explain?

Fire said...

@Bhavan,

High volume with no price response denotes Distribution at the top and Accumulation at the bottom. Now you decise yourself if we are at the top or bottom of any move! :)

golfdude said...

My 2 cents...

To me, the 5400 calls whoever is holding seem hell bent on not closing. I still think they are mostly held by smart money. But unless there is some closing there, 5420 and above seems tough. Ofcourse, we went to 5450 without any changes there. Ofcourse runups from gapups can happen even if OI doesnt support, but usually intraday runs seems to require OI changes.

Ilango said...

NEW POST DONE.

"Stagnating prices" - a cause for concern.

sryasdmurali said...

@ All

NF three times buying opportunities at 5385 and
for selling at 5400.

Good to see.

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