Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Nifty Intraday Update-III

It has done the first two moves: going upto 5410 and pulling back till now.
5375 - Channel bottom & 5380-days low & Pivot.Below this - new lows.
If able to move past 5410, then look for 5425/5445.

79 comments:

SuchIsLife said...

REPOSTING

Dear Ilango sir:

I joined late today, yesterday at the EOD i took Conservative SHORT position in my 1lot capacity at 5380 NF

As per ur premarket should i cover my SHORT if NS trades above 5415 and hold my current SHORT if NS trades below 5385

Is this the plan for the day, Please confirm sir

SIL

assortZ said...

sir,

there are chances that fractals on daily charts may give upward signal at EOD if we close above yesterday's close.. pls correct if am wrong?

Fire said...

@Akki,

Yes Bank volatile. Now to watch if it can sustain above 303.

akki said...

Sir Booked loss @294 now tgt achieved on terminal ,only now can see .
Plz guide accordingly for a nowice but a keen follower .
Regards

Ilango said...

@ SIL,

The trading plan was to go long above 5380 as an aggressive trade and convert it into a conservative trade if it closes above 5day ema.

Ilango said...

@ assortz,

Which fractals are you referring to.

Rajagopal said...

Moving with >100%(Y'day) volumes.
SCRIPT Trend
ACC +
CIPLA +
GRASIM +
GUJAMBUJA +
HDFC -
HEROHONDA -
HLL +
ICICIBANK +
ITC +
M&M +
MARUTIUD +
RANBAXY +
SAIL +
SUNPHARM -
TISCO +
VSNL +

assortZ said...

Sir,

Sorry..its an indicator from MT4.. Bill Williams fractals .. when you were commenting to MOK about fractals..i thought you are referring the same. Definition says as below

// The fractal for buying - a series of five consecutive bars in which two bars with lower maximums stand before the highest maximum and two - after it//

SuchIsLife said...

Thanks Ilango Sir, will do according the plan

SIL

assortZ said...

Sir,

Another definition..

//Fractal Technical Indicator it is a series of at least five successive bars, with the highest HIGH in the middle, and two lower HIGHs on both sides. The reversing set is a series of at least five successive bars, with the lowest LOW in the middle, and two higher LOWs on both sides//

Janak said...

if NF SELL qty. is any indicator - they're all following master's advice :-) and so am i :-)

Fire said...

@Akki,

If you must trade YesBank only, Enter only if closes above 303 today. Otherwise go short like RG with a SL above today's high. On the other hand,SAIL is looking good if it manages to stay above 204. Then you can buy with a suitable SL.

manu said...

sir

ur "betas" r moving fast(tisco and uni)

manu said...

"papa" Ril also joining club..

Fire said...

SAIL has res. @ 208-9 and 213.

Rajagopal said...

Other than TCS all major results met with "dissatisfaction". Must be careful with result based movers. May be the "good result" already discounted. Only 'better results" will give further momentum. Just good - No Good for this market?

Ilango said...

@ Manu,

Kal thak aapka tha.. ab hamara hogaya..?

Parwa nahin..baath tho suntha hain na..

manu said...

sir
try in Punjabi..

kal tak tera si..hun sadde ho gaya..
tension nahi..gal te sunda payae hai na..

my "puli"
:)

Unknown said...

sir....NS is getting resisted at dhema since morning though emea and us are ok !

any caution ?

Pawan Jangid said...

Dear All

For Intraday trading, Volume profile concept is very good . For Positional trading 5 Day Low EMA is the best. It is my experience of last 10 months. No loss only profit. Today I NF buy at 5380 VAL and Booked at 5405 Near VAH, then short 5405 and cover 5385, and again short at 5308 and currently 10 points profit and today profit in NF is 50 points.

Ilango said...

@ manu,

It sounds so nice.

@ Ka,

This trading in 5350 to 5415 zone has been quite testing. Figuring out these small moves bring in small gains but the big ones are yet pending with equal merits.

We await the close now.

Janak said...

Pawan, i'm an intraday trader too - wud like to learn more .......

sryasdmurali said...

@Rajagopal

You are correct. This qtr results for all companies
in Nifty50 I think already discounted. If Nifty moves
above 5475 then it will be BONUS point only.

Expecting bonus point from 5475 to 5545.

I do not want any bonus point this time,

I am going to short at 5475-5480 hopefully.

Bhavan said...

RIL ko dhakka maaro all other omcs moving when is the EGOM?

Unknown said...

very well said Pawan...though i did not that....i've been observing that...you are right !!

sir, whats your comment on that ?

regards

Rajagopal said...

Dr. to Patient's frnd: Agr 1 ghanta pehle le ate to hum ise
bacha lete
Friend: Abe sale aadha ghanta pehle to iska accident hua hai
BUZZ!!!

Bhavan said...

Sir; big ones on which side

Ilango said...

@ Pawan,

There are millions of traders trading with other systems and succeeding. Debate of supremacy only distracts traders.

MP/ Volume profile is working well in your experience. Good for you as well as those follow it.

To say that MP is the best, I beg to differ simply because it is not the system but the person makes a difference.

Unknown said...

humble thanks and kudos as ever, sir.

take care

HariArani said...

@RG sir,

very very good joke.........can't stop laughing...... :-)

Rajagopal said...

Sir,
Punjabi sounds nice when cursing(Gali).
Telugu when singing
Malayalam when speaking
Urudu in Shayari
Bengali in poetry
but what can beat
"Sundara Tamil"?
====
Results tomorrow : PNB,IDBI,ITC,SHRIRAM,VIJAYA BANK,DR REDDY.

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Pawan Jangid said...

Yes Ilango Sir

POWERTRADE said...

Can we buy BN now sir

Unknown said...

PCR of 5200-5600 strikes decreasing 0.70 now vs 0.73 yesterday

OI Addition in 5200-5600 strikes
Calls - 3510,300
Puts - 1790,550

manu said...

RG
:(

Deepak said...

Sir - yesterday dow futures was in deep red but it closed in green surprising the market - today it is opposite - do you advice contra view and purchase of puts ? regards Deepak

Ilango said...

Hi..Rajagopal,

Sethu made a comment yesterday ..can't qualify it as good or bad yet.

"Nowadays you are getting influenced by RG".

Now I wonder ..!! so far the influence has been tremendously enriching.

The problem with being nice is that people take it as "weakness"...little do they realise that "being gentle" comes from only real strength.

Ilango said...

@ Deepak,

That is guessing wild..It is like a throw of dice.

Deepak said...

Ilango Sir - as my grandmother used to say ONLY THE TREES LADEN WILL FRUITS WILL BOW - however they will also have to be prepared for stones - regards Deepak

Manni said...

Good afternoon sir & friends!!

Today there's huge OI buildup at 5500CE (nearly 27lacs) total OI 1.25 cr (to my knowledge highest ever)...which indicates that upside is capped.


After almost no movement for about 40 minutes....Euro has finally started falling.

ISTHAMUS:: said...

dear ilango

can i take long now

santu

Deepak said...

Sir - my apologies for speaking without logic - sorry will not happen again - i just penned my thoughs - regards deepak

Prabakar said...

trying to control but not able too,

in next 20 minutes, will NS cross 5405? Kaaya/Palama?

Sunny said...

hi dear sir
i am steel short side in bank nifty from 10027 (bnf)
so i carry forward for yesterday on sell side or
cover it today also it is stay close below day high ema.
plz give suggestion
regards,
alpesh

Ilango said...

@ Deepak,

It is alright. Market has obliged many of our wild guesses but the same can lead us to troubles too. (Experience).

@ isthamus,

As per TA, it is a buy.

Rajagopal said...

My pleasure and honour. Both of us have studied in "village municipal schools". Whether it is language or street smart steeliness, it is earned and learnt the hard way. If I have rubbed my "easy"ness on you - it is 1/millionth of what knowledge you smear on me and my friends who visit your second home.

Piyush Sharda said...

dow is in green we r too in green means it is
discounted still we r in the upper end of range only.
really confusing to be a bull or bear

Prabhakar said...

Ilango Sir,
======
I have conservative short in NF @5398. Can I hold it for tomorrow? or close it?
Thank you Sir
======

Bhavan said...

Sir; I beg to differ,the more the succeessful the person is more are his detterants an he faces more critcism somewhere I have read that when a person aspiring to become a director of films is unable to do so opts for a critics proffession.Also dogs always bark behind a mighty elephant since they do not have their own mind they only critcize your views

Ilango said...

@ alpesh,

Closing below "Day High ema" is not a positional sell but "Sell on rises".

Wait for 10200+ or a break of 9885 for safe Shorts.

Anonymous said...

The upmove today from yesterdays close does not look impulsive, can this short upmove be the "B" wave with tgts arround 5430 and then the big "C" wave down.

Unknown said...

Vix
Open 20.38
High 20.38
Low 18.82
Current 20.03
Prev Close 20.38
% Change 1.71

Anonymous said...

Sir pls clarify???

Ilango said...

@ Rajagopal,

:)

@ Prabhakar,

In this narrow band of 5355 to 5415, we sold @ 5405 and suggested to go long above 5380 today to manage the position.

It is difficult to advise as the signals are changing everyday & possibilities are there for both.

Going long today was mainly because of 5 day stochastics (5-D : Refer PreMarket).

I could go wrong. If in doubt, do what your head says.

Ilango said...

stocktipsatobeya,

It is a possibility. Yes. And sometimes it may not make that high too. Part of it all "educated guess work".

Fire said...

Ilangoji,

So the aggressive buy gets converted to conservative now as the closing seems above 5DEMA?

Ankurbbhatt said...

Dear Ilango !

I beg to differ regarding medium term bullishness... Nifty has shown negative divergence with a/d line. one of the very strong indicator of market strength according to me....of course, short term may be different but Nifty is poised to fall according to the history in my opinion!

Anonymous said...

thank you sir.

S N said...

Ilango Sir,

Sent a mail last week seeking some help on your Tech table..Pl respond and help as and when you are free..Thanks

S NAGARAJAN
COIMBATORE

Bhavan said...

@RG is BHEL poised for a big upmove ur TA?

Ilango said...

Ankhurbbhatt,

Negative divergence persists.
Upsides, if any are limited for the short term.
If come & takes supports @ 5200, would be great.

Piyush Sharda said...

after u put out the 5d i checked it for many occasions
it has failed only on one and fared very well on 4-5 occasions
i cheked

Ilango said...

"Closing pattern" is not encouraging for the Bulls.

Bhavan said...

last two major sell orders @5 lac nifty

Janak said...

US closing in GREEN since last 2 days, what if they decide to "profit book" today and end in RED :-)

Janak said...

Bhavan, how can one chk. those last big orders? pl. advise.

mynac said...

High Turnover Day.Rs.109000 Cr.

Ankurbbhatt said...

Dear Ilango,

What is a possibility of a correction according to EW? and upto what level ? If I took hyou right, is it 5200 on a downfall acc. to EW ?

Bhavan said...

ditto same for august future expect they have a corresponding volume

mynac said...

Actual it is 104000.Typo mistake

Bhavan said...

@janak which ODIN do you have

Janak said...

Bhavan, i don't use ODIN - but use Karvy's GoTX

Ilango said...

@ Ankurbbhatt,

A 5 waves seem to be over from 4786 to 5453. A correction of 38% & 50% are normal.(5200 & 5120).

Whereas such a correction coming at weekly "OB" readings can change it to downtrend too.

We know that the direction is closer to reversing to Down..some confirmations are required. They will come soon.

Bigger corrections can still find supports @ 4650-4750 below 5000.

Until a clear formation does not come, we go with an immediate view that a correction upto 5200/5120 possible but not confirmed yet.

Ilango said...

Hi..Niftysparks,

I understand it well now. :)

Thank you for clearing the air. I very much appreciate it.

Janak said...

Ilango Sir, I am becoming a disciple now. I have stuck to my shorts in NF......

Chandra said...

Hi Elango,

Indicated "Going long today was mainly because of 5 day stochastics (5-D : Refer PreMarket)".

In premarket file, which sheet I should refer. I could not not find.

How to interpret any link to read.

Bose

Ankurbbhatt said...

@Ilango,

Thank you for all the comments today. It was a good conversation....

Unknown said...

Hi, Good Evening Ilango Sir,

Charts and pivot table suggest positive notes for market tomorrow, but market is still in fragile stage. It could go either side.

According to me Market may remain in the range of 17,700-18,150.

Ref: Stock Market For Tomorrow(22nd, July'10)

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