My sincere attempt is to illustrate here the way I self taught myself with the wave theory and the utility of it when combined with other methods in understanding market moves. The book that inspired me the most to follow EW is "Elliott wave Explained" by Robert beckman.
To me, EW is simply a spontaneous counting of "Fives and threes" and its combination to put the market moves in a predictable order.
Ralph Nelson Elliot observed after years of analysis that the market movement was quite orderly and followed a pattern of waves. It is a theory that reflects the law governing the form of the natural path of all human activities. This Nature's law, though predictable to the dedicated, still leaves much mystery to many.
The comparison with tide, wave and ripple has been used since the earliest days of Dow Theory.
What is a wave..?? There are no parameters to define what is a wave and hence it is left to the imagination of the follower. The example of the waves of the ocean illustrates this quite well..
1. A small wave starts initially.
2. And then it recedes for a while and gathers more strength.
3.On its next advance, the wave becomes stronger than the earlier one.
4.With a further consolidation, the final wave explodes with full strength.
What is a wave..?? There are no parameters to define what is a wave and hence it is left to the imagination of the follower. Years of my observations have helped me to arrive at a basic tool to identify a wave which is "Trendline". When a trendline is combined with the study of Technical indicator such as macd (How to combine EW with macd, you are well guided to put these price movements in an orderly fashion as defined by Elliot wave theory that prices move in 5 waves followed by a 3 wave correction. And this process continues..on and on.
The Elliot theory: Market moves in waves, each of which is interrelated to one another in time and price. A movement in a particular direction can be represented by "5" distinct waves of which three in the direction(called impulse wave-1,3,5) and two against the direction(called Corrective wave-2,4).
One such five-wave would become the first wave of the higher degree. Eg: 5 waves in hour would become one single wave in the Day.
Each corrective wave will subdivide into 3 waves of a lesser degree. And this process continues with variations in actual market place as per the Traders/Investors psychology & their resultant behaviour which moves the markets.
How to apply..? You simply start labeling them in fives and threes as you deem fit using, if necessary, other "Overbought & Oversold" indicators and other methods. There are some basic rules to be followed to help you in counting them correctly which will be discussed next week.
Here is a small illustration to count them and their immense utility in assessing the likely direction of the market which helps in proper entry and exit and above all to "sit tight" with the trades.
1. At the reversal point, the first wave is formed with a swift retracement of the last fall. The illustration here is of the onset of the bull run started in March 2009.(In the 5-minute or 30 minute chart, the faster retracement could have been spotted at 2630 after a positive divergences and highly oversold nature).
As the first set of "5"s is complete, it becomes the 1st or "A" wave (As the upmove from mar.09 low is construed as corrective)of a larger degree/ time cycle.
i.e- from hourly 5 waves, they become the 1st wave of the daily as shown below:
Also note that the last fall from 2798 to 2556 got retraced in shorter time to 2836, confirming a trend reversal.
Always book out at the count of 5, at least partially and re-enter at the count of "abc"-the corrective part. In most bullish cases, the correction ends at the 4th wave of the previous lower cycle. Never miss the "Third wave entry"-one of the most rewarding phase.There are many traders who simply wait for the 3rd wave set ups in various time cycles to make their safer & rich trades. Note in the hourly chart below the irregular correction in the second wave(marked in red) wherein the "b" moved above the "1st" wave suggesting of "Bullish undercurrent" that market is quite impatient to forge ahead.
Here below, you will note the completion of three sets of "fives" connected by two sets of "threes" to form one big "First or A"(Pink) wave to be followed by a correction which ended near the 4th wave of the previous cycle. Now Imagine, what the 3rd wave of this larger time scale can have in store for it after experiencing a small 3rd wave upmove earlier within the "three sets of Fives". We'll see soon.
The more noisy or countless sub-waves are enclosed within the daily waves in a neat fashion.Note also how the "first break of the trendline often gives away the end of a 4th wave and the onset of a powerful 5th wave" This is not a rule but a guideline worth remembering.
Yes..in the daily 3rd wave, the markets gave a Black Swan..a total upward freeze. This happens often to individual scrips.Note also, subsequent to the completion of the 5-waves in daily which make up the 1st or "A" wave of the weekly, a larger correction sets in. A break of the redrawn trendline confirms the "a" wave(first of the three waves of a correction) of that correction.
Once a larger correction in the form of an "abc" (We label the corrections as "abc" to avoid a confusion of labeling both upmoves and downmoves using numbers) is complete, the next big 3rd wave or "C" wave(as it is still considered to be corrective)start to unfold.
The most important factor in labeling the moves is to help identify the direction, its magnitude depending on its time cycle to stay in the direction for the correct amount of time. One should not, for eg.,enter into an hourly 3rd wave and sit tight for days.The hourly direction lasts for "Hours" only.
Remember there are waves within waves and various "Counts" are in force at any given time for different time cycles. EW works well for the larger time scale and requires high agility & proper stop loss & money management to play the shorter version.
My EW learning has come mostly from the shorter version as you will see most of the wave forms in a shorter version since one life time is not enough to see them in larger time scale which can run into centuries.
In the next week, we will learn some basic rules that govern this wave movements.
Have patience..Elliot took 10 years to arrive at his theory.
Get rich slowly.
17 comments:
I must say, this is a really beautiful explanation.
You have choosen a correct methodology, story-telling like, it really appeals and helps in understanding labelling and using real graphs was a very apt choice.
Keep it coming..I am listening.
Regards
Yogesh Tiwari
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the input on Elliot WT.
Also I found something like Efficient-market hypothesis in wiki..
With regards,
Manoj.
Sir,
What can I say? What a mind-boggling tutorial and way of instruction! I tried to study EW at least 5 times with the same book you have referred. But every time I backed after reading about 50-60% of the book as I was finding it difficult to apply in the real market. But after this wonderful, amazing New Year gift, I am going to brush the dust of my copy and jump into the ocean of EW once more. This is the highest compliment I could pay you. You have made not only my day, perhaps you have made my year and perhaps a new direction for my stock market life.
And I am going to disturb and irritate you asking so many questions(some of them may sound silly to you) that you could wish you never started this! :)
With all my heartfelt respect and love...
THANK YOU ILENGO
Dear Sir,
Its a nice start for EW learner...
I read study material on EW and seen videos which give explanations with U.S. stock market..
but what i like specially here ,is giving explanations with nifty charts which we can correlate easily as we are doing trading in nifty...
keep writing...
Regards,
Dare
Thank you sir for the simple explaination of E.W
and more particularly the time frame reference which co-ordinates with our nifty LOOKS easy to understand than all other explianations which I have read in the net seeing the complex theory i just postpone learning them since the time frame is most important i kind requet the current recent charts may also be added.
INSPIRED BY YOUR ARTICLES
(Sir I was expecting a special week-end story which you give is always a true story)
WITH RESPECT
GOVIND
I am eagerly waiting for the next week to know the current state of wave on which nifty is riding... I find this article very useful for studying EW, keep ur good working.
Rajesh
Dear Ilango,
What a great teaching skills on complex EW theory.. Thanks because of you now i recalling one of my teacher who teaches like you during my schooling...
Now a day's your blog site becomes my home page..
Thanks,
Ramesh.
Thanks Ilango.
Regards,
S Rajagopal
I am just about to repeat what "ranajay" comment..
What to say....WONDERFULL. God bless you
KPR
Dear Ilangoji,
This first wave of EW was so nicely explained that I find it difficult to pick words for the appreciation!
I am sure like in 3rd wave we will get more enlightened insights which will take all we followers to a new height of learning(Of course after basic clarification and consolidation in wave 2 of learning).
Regarding labeling of the current up move from March 09/Oct 08, there are different schools of thoughts. Some consider Oct 08 low (even some March 09) as completion of corrective wave C of super cycle 2 of Grand Super cycle 3 (GS3). Based on this count we are currently in cycle 1 of super cycle 3 of GS 3.This counting throws open huge up move in coming days/months in cycle 3 after some correction in cycle 2 of SC3 of GS3.
The other counting as adopted by you says we are in corrective B after A completing bottom in March 09. As per this counting we will have to undergo further pain of wave C in coming months/years to let us see levels lower than March 09 lows (perhaps).
Request you to provide your thoughts on preferred and Alternative counting of waves on longer time frame, where we stand as of now. This may enable long term investor to take proper position. I believe wealth can be created only in long term in stock market if we enter at right end of corrective wave.
I know I may be asking too much at this time. My request to you is to address this as appropriate in future explanation on this topic.
Thanks for your time and patience with all of us.
sir thanks for beautiful explaination about waves.sir it is my request to u that if u updates in bank nifty regularly like nifty everyday(eod and premarket only)it is immensely benificial for us.thanks for sbin updates.
Ilango Hi
I personally have been not a fan of Elliots coz I never could understand it (maybe its because I never applied myself to it sincerely).
But your today's post puts it very lucidly and I am sure many of your followers would find this post a delight!
Teaching is fun when its done with gay abandon and learning is fun when its done with no strings attached!
Wish you very best and hope to see many such posts from you!
Cheers!
Dear Ilango Sir,
The best new year gift that one can receive. You made my day. The simple and fluid explanation made it so simple that it seems that I have received manna from heaven.
Thanks again for such simple way of teaching us EW fundamentals.
Sanjay Kr Jaiswal
Dear Ilangoji,
Never ever I found a better explanation of elliot waves as given in the chart where you have mentioned 2 big waves , then then 8 waves and then 34 waves.
You are a genious.
Keep posting such articles.
Best Regards,
Shailendra Jain
Hi Ilango,
I agree with Rajvada's comment that some TA states that the five waves was completed in Oct 08.
I am new to this site and EW readings but studying to understand how to time the market. I was trying to calculate the timing on the basis of Wave 1 + Wave (total days) / 0.382. This gives me the time of completion of 5 wave. If I calculate the timing of last year i.e. 2008 then the first wave was completed 8 Jan 08 and second wave completed on 18 Mar 08. I divided the total number of days and divided by 0.382. By this way I got the approx date of end of 5th wave i.e. Oct 08 end.
IF I count start of first wave from Oct 08 end and end of second wave i.e. Mar 09 and divide by 0.382 then I get the end of 5th wave at around 17 Oct 09.
My understanding is that the time wise the third and fifth wave time is always equal.
My basis of this understanding of 2008 and 2009 calendar year study only. Also considered weekly MACD along with this timing.
Alternative to the above : If I count the first wave from March 09 and end of second wave July 09 then the fifth wave is Feb/Mar 10.
You and all the followers of this site are requested to please review my understanding and correct me.
thnx
hitesh
good
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