Friday, October 7, 2011

Nifty PreMarket View

I'm reproducing an interaction with "AshishAg" who has been insisting on the "ivth" wave continuation.....
"It is possible that the 4th wave is still continuing. My reservations are that Bank Nifty has broken below last low by a wide margin whereas Nifty hasn't, which led me to look for an alternative terminal in the way of an ending diagonal.

If the today's upmove with a break above 4800 gets contained within the falling channel, then ED continues. If breaks past the channel decisively, then we should label the "iv"th as an "abcde" and the last fall from 5034 to 4728 as "v"th.

Regular TA, barring Daily, does not conform to a bottom yet. So above 4800, one could stay long till 4910-4930 comfortably and look for weakness OR Continued strength near 4930."
If you start the ED from 5169, then the terminal ED has ended @ 4728.The confirmation of the same would be a faster retracement of 5169.

A close above 4888-4914 would confirm a ST reversal.
Go Long at the open closer to 4830-50.

56 comments:

parimal said...

Namaste Ilango Sir and all friends here
SGX Nifty is ruling high since yesterday at 4884 a gain of
more than 100 point from NSE Nifty close of last trading.
all Asian markets are in the green and Europe closed in the green yesterday
all the best for a profitable trading day
regards

chetan said...

good morning,master & friends.:D

MLMT said...

SGX nifty now at 4930.

Krishna said...

Ilango sir, Good morning. I was short at 4970 on 30th Sept and held till 4th Oct after which my patience ran out and I booked out. Usually, I set my trailing stop loss at around 50% of max gain made, which in this case was (4970-4729)/2= 120; 4970 - 120 = 4850; So my TSL should have been at 4850 but I booked out on 4th Oct around close at 4770. On 5th, when the market went upto 4828, I got tempted as my TSL was still not hit and was a shorting opportunity with a SL of just 20 points. As I was thinking, market started tanking and I never entered till it made a bottom and started retracing and I felt this is going to go down more and I entered a short at around 4770 [same place where I exited on 4th]. I thought I'll hold on till today and see what happens, but your comments towards the end that anything could happen, further falls possible, or it could break 4800 on the upside made me come out towards close on 5th with a small profit. If I look at SGX Nifty now, it shudders me even to think what would have happened had I held on to the shorts as I had invested even the profit made between 30th and 4th. SINCERE THANKS FOR THE COMMENT AT CLOSE.

SAM said...

SGX Nifty at 4925... OMG

Prabhat said...

Are my eyes seeing wrong or the sgxlive.in website wrong ..?

Elliot Wave India said...

Ending diagonal has 5 waves which divide
themselves in fractals of 3. How can you label
current action a diagonal? Is this what you been
breathing since 1992?

Sanjay said...

Namaste Ilango Sir & Blogmates,

A corrective bounce in the making: Option Analysis for 05-10-2011

Duplicated at Wordpress Site

Thanks & Regards,

Sanjay Kr Jaiswal

Krishna said...

EWI, please dont start. We are all tired of the occasional expert/critic like you. Even if Ilango sir modifies Elliot Wave completely and renames it Ilango Wave, we dont care. Can you even imagine the amount of effort it takes to update the tables and the charts every hour, every day? Please go away

MLMT said...

Bulls received a 250 pt down day last week. I guess bears get it today. Wierd market - full of so many gaps.

SAM said...

@Ilango sir Pls guide what to do in such huge gap up
opening and as it seems that Jnsar is going to hit at
open what to do for JNsar trades?

Dinesh Rishi said...

Good Morning Master and copy to all

and Salute to Krishna.

Shradha Saburi said...

GM Sir,AND All gems of Just nifty,
I just remember your word........
@ Hitendra,

Nifty has travelled 3/4th distance of the current channel. Below 4740, it will continue down towards 4650. But if it moves past 4800, then it will move up creating another upward channel.

4740 break or 4800 break - On Friday.... Both looks possible.

If one is short from higher level, he'll carry shorts, having part booked along the way.

To create new positions, I would suggest to wait as it could go either way.

Yash and Dhan said...

Good morning Sir and blogmates

Nilesh Patil said...

Good Morning Master & Friends

venkatapathy l said...

Namaste Ilango Sir and fellow bloggers

LV

Smita said...

Good Morning sir and All .

vksoni said...

@ krishna rightly said....yes we are tired

Ilango said...

@ Sam,

Go Long in the gap start - 4879 onwards.

Prabakar said...

Namaste Ilango Sir and JN Family.

SAM said...

Thank you sir,

Ilango said...

For all the EW followers:

What is a wave..? Can anyone answer..? Did Mr.R.N.Elliott answered..?

It is a subjective one.

You show me a "12345" wave; and I will make it "abc".

I started labeling an alternative Ending diagonal few days ago. And today, Tony Caldaro of Elliott wave Lives on, a highly respected EW site, has labelled S&P 500 having ended with ED.

Just follow the directions. Never get into EW label arguments. It never does anyone any good.

Dinesh Rishi said...

read between the lines

and one must also read between TT and Profit table :D

sudharsan said...

Good morning ilango sir and friends

Bhavan said...

Sir if it reaches 4930 should it be part booked or a TSL maintained?
& please Sir do not get perturbed as u had given enough signals for peolple to understand to book their shorts or partbook

Option Millionaire said...

Good Morning Ilango sir and friends.

parimal said...

if you are Sudarshan Sukhani, Sir
welcome to our lovely home that Sir Ilango has built
have a nice time here Sir

POWERTRADE said...

Good Morning sir and Warriors

Bhavan said...

Sir not crossing DJnsar?

sudharsan said...

@parimal ... i am sudharsan from chennai

Ilango said...

@ Bhavan,

Most TA has just turning up. They will run for hours and then for days too.

So buy & hold.

Once it starts to trade firmly above 4912, weekly Pivot, it should gather strength towards WEma-4976.

4870 will act as support.

Bhavan said...

Sir bought from yesterday @4772NF so cannot contai or perplexed at what to do now

animoitra2011 said...

Can any body update nifty open interest positions on a regular basis? It may provide some clue.
If open interest crosses 30 million then may be fresh longs entering the system.Other wise it may still be a mere short covering rally.Regds.

Piyush Sharda said...

sir,

day has not given good reversal though there
is pos div in slow hour macd. in day fmacd, day 9rsi,day
14 d no good divergence is there. we are having fierce
gap up and downs in the pattern looks like.

Piyush Sharda said...

day just rising frm o/s

AD said...

Good Morning to Master and all Seniors.

Sir in case of stock specific JNSAR how much filter should be kept. Like for Nifty it is 20 points filter so for stocks can i keep a filter of 0.5-1%. Sir please help me.

Ilango said...

@ Bhavan,

I noticed your "Buying on Wednesday closing hour"...That is an aggressive entry which is individual trader's choice & style.

you could part book @ 21DEma.

bullvsbear said...

Good Morning Everyone!

Ilongo Ji , Why are we going long.. ?
Is it place to short as it looks to be the channel top and near the JNSAR?
Thats what I understood from the Pre-Market view?

Sorry if its a silly question?

cooldent said...

jnsar longs.....wts the stop loss 4870?

Anonymous said...

Good Morning.............

MLMT said...

Wow. No move for 30 mins so far. Coiling up.

Bramesh said...

Gm Sir and All Blogmates

Today's Opening is like Mini Election gap opening..

So as per previous experience we should not accept Nifty
should go down in hurry

We have WEMA@4901 JNSAR@4914
and 4930 MLEMA are resistance

Above these levels there will be a clear rise till 4949
and 4976

Dinesh Rishi said...

Bhavan

same situation here

क्या करे कन्ट्रोल नही होत्ता 4%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI6Sk5_Hxo0

venkatapathy l said...

In the last 3 days' trade FII sold stocks worth more than 2,800 crore.

LV

swami said...

LLANGO

as per EW count still 4 th wave running,if 4720
break then only we assume 5 th wave run,other wise
still 4 th wave in more complex form ,as per EW nifty
target below 4500 sure.4th wave max up side is 5490 range

Indus said...

@Ilango

Sekar has raised a valid point.....We are below JNSAR,
week pivot, and day high ema and month low ema...please
enlighten as to why we should not open shorts at these
levels, given that your chart indicates that weakness
persists below 4949.....

Confused with this long call....would appreciate your view

Ilango said...

The tools I'm using for the current situation is the regular TA with Macd, stochastics & rsi. All of them are turning up from the bottom in both Hour & Day. Only reservation is of week which is still "weak".

So you could choose to wait for the week to bottom out. OR even wait for the last high to be conquered(5034) or a decisive break out of the channel resistance @ 4935.

Choice is yours.

swami said...

LLANGo,i am long nifty till 4720 not break, other wise
change to short if break 4720,4720 break if confirmation
market move towards 4500

MLMT said...
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A J said...

Sometimes baby bull gets abandoned and sometime baby bear
But profit gets "abandoned" every time! :D

Prabhat said...

@Experts: Has JNSAR Long triggered @4914?

Ilango said...

New Post Done.

MLMT said...

There have been only 6 occasions in last 12 years when US markets have gapped up 3% or more - out of these 2 have been trend up days, 2 were trend down and the other 2 have been flattish.

Odds are high that at some point during the day we retrace down to at least NS 4870 and then go back up and close near highs of the day.

Open of today's type is very rare.. happening once every few years. And it happened because Nifty had a holiday yesterday. Needs to be traded carefully.

Indus said...

@Ilngo

Thank you

joe said...

Sir can u update the falling wedge pattern and its breakout level.

Bhavan said...

this is only for people following JNSar if one is strictly following it u would have ended with profit even if one had not part booked as the entry would have @4974 0r 4950 approximately and we r currently @4915 the current JNSar so simply a minimum profit of 40 ponts if ONE STICKS to the BASICS instead of getting confused all values of Nifty Spot and so it has been advised to follow the prices

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