Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Nifty Intraday Update-III


80 comments:

Rajagopal said...

Dear Mok - Mail.

satheesh said...

திருக்குறள் -> பொருட்பால் -> அமைச்சியல் -> அவை அறிதல்

717 - கற்றறிந்தார் கல்வி விளங்கும் கசடறச்

சொற்றெரிதல் முன்னர் இழுக்கு.

மாசற்ற சொற்களைத் தேர்ந்தெடுத்து உரை நிகழ்த்துவோரிடமே அவர் கற்றுத் தேர்ந்த கல்வியின் பெருமை விளங்கும்.

So, rajagopal sir this is what I expected from RV

Babu said...

@Raj
your 2:30 started working now itself:)

Ilango said...

There was +ve div in 5 minute chart and Nifty is reversing from day low ema..

Take action accordingly.

I will upload the chart.

Piyush Sharda said...

babu,

there r lots of intricacies of 2-30 theory. i guess it doesnt start early

Niftybaaz said...

Illango sir

many many thanx for your reply sir

you are like god for my type of traders, HATS OFF to you

sir i am holding short and will exit if SL hit @5250
but looking at expiry very close , some tension will be definately there....anyway lets hope for good

regards
vikram

Rajagopal said...

Satheesh - kindly let it pass. Neither RV nor me are evidently less in our love and respect for God and religion. It was a joke. But as Viren has pointed out in the reprodcued definition, levels of acceptance will vary.

manu said...

@raja

u cn refer this http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/beta.asp

litil is not in beta 1..i hv a different concept u cn name indian beta..i look upon highly traded stocks..news effect beta pricing but news does nt make beta:)

if u remebr i posted hr whn ifci,rnrl,uni,ispat and renuka will cm in best 5 thn it is sep 2007 ..think so suzlon replacing rnrl..rest back on track..

hope u got my point BETA

Rajagopal said...

Thanks Manu.

AAR VEE said...

@ viren

thanks for pointing out "humour" wiki to me. hope u had applied the knowledge of your "research" to yourself first.

i didnt take the credit of the joke,i cut and pasted it ,like u do for your market profile

satheesh said...

yes rajagopal sir. I will definetely oblige you

Rajagopal said...

RV9 - please. Whoever enjoyed it enjoyed it. Whoever felt otherwise expressed about it. The page has turned. Let us look forward. It was a well circulated quote - read years back (in Reader's Digest,I think).

AAR VEE said...

@sateesh

wll try and answer about your expectations from me if u posted that in some language as say english.

satheesh said...

ilango sir,

just for confirmation - the conservative short is still intact with the same SL?

Ilango said...

@ aarvee9,

Rajagopal is right in saying that this joke featured in "Reader's Digest".

However, we just want to respect other's sentiments. You have done nothing wrong. But letting it pass immediately will do wonders.

Everyone here benefits from yours & Viren's exchanges..Should we alter that...!

satheesh said...

@ RV,

i have posted the same "Thirukural" in English also in the previous post. As Rajagopal sir pointed out - no hard feelings!!!

Viren said...

Aarvee9,

I am leaving this forum here and now.

Don't want to be associated with disgusting people like your-self...

Bye to all..

AAR VEE said...

@ Ilango sir,

Thanks for your views that i have done nothing wrong.

I fully understand why people target particular person in some or other pretex.I let it pass as human nature.

Ilango said...

@ Satheesh,

As it was a "mild sell", we are trading the position.

Accordingly, a long after +ve div. done which can be closed at the end of the day or carried forward if it closes above 5 sma @ 5235.

Babu said...

Ilango Sir,
Can we consider any short here?(POC) sl VAH?

Ilango said...

@ Viren,

You have been one of the most sensible person here with amazing focus on the markets. Should you get distracted this way..?

Let it pass. Don't you think, collectively the result that comes out benefits "So many"...Should they suffer..

We can have disagreements on so many issues..And we also have a choice to withdraw ourselves from disturbing exchanges.

I hope you can understand my sentiments on this..

AAR VEE said...

@viren

don't give up on "disgusting" people like me so early.

u have lot to hear my dear

manojag said...

17495 is the value of sensex for this hour for a trend line connecting yesterday's high and today's high.One needs to be on guard at that level.
best

manu said...

sir
hw r u so selfless?

@viren pa ji

tusi na jao:(

Ilango said...

@ Babu,

That was a +ve div. in 5-minute time frame. If you sell here, the SL should be NF 5250, a 7 point above VAH 5243.

In 45 minutes so many things can happen..

This corrective channel has a resistance @ 5235NS.

If it clears that, it can go higher to the next 5255..

Babu said...

@Viren
Why matured ppl like you take it personal yaar. If we say some thing 100’s people will be there to think differently.

Ilango said...

Ahh..Manoj,

Sensex..would give more appropriate resistance line. Thank you.

Babu said...

thanks sir, not taken any shorts. Just holding remaining 75%..

bizagra said...

Ilango sir, wht i understand for conservatives is ,our SL is 5250 now. If it closes below 5215 day low ema, good for shorts. Conservatives are carrying shorts if sl not hit.
I m right Ilango sir, anything to add??

Rajagopal said...

RV9 - God can play also?He created a scene here. Wish you will say "Hi Viren. Just a joke.Ignore if you don't like". Imagine so many envious ones waiting for a family break up?

bizagra said...

Ilango sir this SL 5250 is NF???

satheesh said...

Viren,

Story from Buddhism:

When Lord Buddha went seeking alms, one lady screamed at him all bad words - buddha left quietly but all his disciples were raging with anger. Buddha replied - I did not take those words (as alms) b'coz I choose not to. only if I accept all what she said is true I must get angry.

so,Unless we accept all good/bad - it will not affect us in our duty. So, hopefully just let it pass as difference of opinion is universal.
one cannot expect all to think in same line and length.

AAR VEE said...

@ RG

U can go through the past posts and see what he try to did ,i just tried to let it go softly but personal accusitions like "disgusting" and all are not done.

SMALLTRADER said...

ragagopal Sir,

canwe go long in Renuka sugars ???????????

Ilango said...

yes..bizagra,

A 3.00PM close above 5228 will bring in some hourly momentum..

Today's Day high ema is @ 5240...it could change a bit if new high is made..

Rajagopal said...

Dear Mano - Is it Resistance you are pointing out as Ilango observes? Is there hope for the shorts to be nurtured?

Also is inclusion and exclusion of a stock in Sensex (Sunpharma Vs.Cipla) have any individual effect on the stock? Momentary may be!!!

sadanand balwant said...

Dear Viren,
We all love you."Love" always gives the respect.Thanks.

AAR VEE said...

@ RG,

I am also ready to quit the blog and never comment on it.i share my jokes with people like for others i cant help about others.

assortZ said...

Raja sirji..have seen many TA..but your TA very simple and easy to follow :). if someone wants to scalping, can SIT TIGHT doing nothing till 2.30 and execute trade for just 15-20 points profit..today your “Tuesday take-off” so far so good..but am with “shorts” :)

Piyush Sharda said...

viren sir,

at the end of day it was just a joke. u r right if u say few may not like it. but just consider this, isnt ur anger and ur actions disproportnate to what has happened.

manojag said...

When we send a letter to some one and he does not accepts it then it goes back to the sender as undelivered/refused. Similarily bad words not taken returns to the sender. Guys just focus on what Ilango has to say as thats why we are here. FOCUS is the key. Leave all else as secondary.Keep picking Ilango's brain with your genuine queries and keep learning in the process. Don't let your Ego come into play although it is easily said than done. These kind of brawls are not new and has happened since time immorial in the Gurukuls of yesteryears. FOCUS is the Key.
Best

Rajagopal said...

RV9 - which two have not fought worser than us mate? One person's tolerance is two person's friendship (very loose translation). We both took it afresh.
===
The word used was an environment. I can only advise my younger brother to say Sorry and have the friend-ship sailing. All disliked words,comments to be filed out.

I love you Bro.

Babu said...

Sir,
Secound time i am trying my luck with Unitech NF@72.45

KGovind said...

Sir,

today's premkt view is totally confusing for me.

1. First time i am seeing Trade given for conservative posn. so does it mean cover short at 5190/5205, then go long. Finally sell long at 5245 area and again short. Is my understanding correct?

2. Because i am seeing first time trade for conservitive pons, i mixe4 it up for aggressive trade. so i did not cover short at mkt low. Sir, after TRADE --5190/5205, ETC ETC, Aggressive was written so I totally mixed it as Aggressive.

Just for safety, next time sir, when conservative trade is given can you write CONSERVATIVE TRADE -- 5190/5205 ETC ETC instead of simply saying Trade.

After reading reply for satheesh,I covered half posn at 5242 (5 pt loss). Only have 1 posn Short with avg of 5237.

manojag said...

RG
Its a resistance and should give us early warning on our shorts.
Changing sensex components with such a small weightage should not effect it.

satheesh said...

@Viren and aarvee9,

As i said earlier no hardfeelings. Difference of opinion is universal. I treat this blog as a place of learning - a school - an online gurukulam which is unique in a way that teachers can become students (Ilango sir's acceptance that he is new to market profile) and vice-versa. Learning knows no bounds.

so in such a place - in principle i cannot stand "odd jokes" - which personally I feel will reduce the sanctity.

So I request on behalf of all blogmates both of you please continue your service.

AAR VEE said...

@ RG

now if u like i can say sorry.

Niftybaaz said...

dear Illango sir ,

if we do not close above 5 ema...can we carry our nifty shorts sir

sir wots you vew on the range level at which it is going to expire
pl. advise

regards
vikra

dangi said...

Rajagopal ji, Today I tried to implement your P2P technique. I have a few questions.Would be grateful if you could answer.

When markets are moving fast do you have an order in place at your target/stop zone or do you wait and see how market responds to that price level and then take the action accordingly?
I hope the question was relevant..

saravana said...

Ilango sir, thanq for ur levels. I was holding nifty futures short at 5255 which i exited at 5000 today, entered long at 5195 & exited at 5232 - all march series.
Then again entered April series short at 5247 & holding now for your nifty spot level of 5140-5170.
let us see how this last trade works.

Rajagopal said...

You need courage to say Sorry - Gandhiji.

One request and advise dear brother. An angry moment ofter does what we can't repent for years. Never retaliate with words and deeds when you are too angry or too happy. One advise,when angry think you are talking to your Father. Your words will be different.

Wish this NAZAR BATTU will vanish today. Say "Sorry Viren and add FROM THE HEART"

bizagra said...

Ilango sir, i hope conservatives are carrying shorts??

saravana said...

Sorry, exited 5255 short at 5200 and not 5000.

Rajagopal said...

Dangi - Since two trades are concurrent one conservative and one P2P - I am strict with my 12 pts with my P2P trades. Just place the covering buy/sell at 12-14 points fixed,once the original trade is through.

Niftybaaz said...

respected illango ji and others

pl. reply...that can we carryover shorts

waiting for response ...pleaseeee

regards
vikram

Prabhakar said...

Babu Sir,

You are having NF shorts in March or April?

Babu said...

March... will convert tomorrow, but all stocks short in April.. coz targets are more

Paresh said...

expiry will be in the range 5240 to 5275 i guess :(

Prashant said...

bought march 5200 call @37 and 5200 put @13 to carry forward for gap-up/down.

assortZ said...

Ilango sir..

As usual..can we have your 3.20 one liner pls..it is badly required due to holiday tmw..my raw understanding for shorts is…we can carry them as long as it not closes above 5235..but can we still carry them though it will not close below 5215?

Babu said...

@Prabhakar,
Wow, i moved to few to april nf@5241

Babu said...

@Prabhakar
Thanks.. i moved coz of premium

Rajagopal said...

Babu - Moved - how is it done please? Please advise.

Niftybaaz said...

@babu ji

if you want to convert it later , convert it now and peep that premium in you kitty

regards
vikram

Anonymous said...

aarvee9

ur a ego person. ur words are wounding others. what ever u want to tell, tell that in ur blog and not here.

Rajagopal said...

Babu - Unitech Long or Short?

Babu said...

@Raj
Reached Chennai from Pune:)

Prabhakar said...

Ilango Sir.

Can I carry Shorts in NF initiated at 5255

Thanks

Babu said...

@Raj
I have short @74.60 .. carrying, Just tried Sir's call 2 times. made 1.80 rs

sadanand balwant said...

Still steam left.will try to find out day after tomorrow. Thanks.

Prabhakar said...

Ilango Sir.

Can I carry Shorts in NF initiated at 5255

Thanks

Babu said...

@Raja
Anything wrong i am doing wrong about Unitech? Unitech, suzlon and Tata Motors short calls given by my broker. I don't mix up with calls. I trade This blog calls in Sharekhan and broker calls in Kotak and geiogit :)

Rajagopal said...

Babu - You are perfect with all three Shorts.

I need some explanation on "Moving" (do u mean roll-over or any other technique?).

Please put a few words to lvaadhoc@gmail.com

rochak parekh said...

dear rajgopal
sorry if i am bothering u too much
and perhaps i hav missed ur reply, if u did reply, for my yesterdays query, so posting it again
what do u think about my infosys long @ 2744, mcdowells long @ 1470, bharti long @ 292 hedged my reliance 1050 march put, and a mini short@ 5262, kindly answer asap, thanks

Rajagopal said...

Bye All.
Bye RV,Viren (& Mok-the golden words be the witness) till I say Hi which will be after seeing your postings.

Rajagopal said...

Rochak - Friend I responded already. My trades are not longer than my Nose. I don't have a "Term view" of the market. I prepare for my "Day Trade" and the "Expiry Label" is bit flexible.

assortZ said...

@babu,

Pls send me a copy when you write to mr.raja on rollover

A J said...

@all
Speech is silver, silence is golden?...may be that's why more people silently follow this blog than active members...(Prosenjit are you smiling?)
I just logged in to see the conversations of the day...read it two times but still cant figure what caused the problem...may be that particular comment was deleted..I think it was related to religion and caused problem between Viren and aarvee..
Religion and Politics has always divided people (just my opinion...I stay away from both)
Mix religion with politics you get TERRORISM
As trader and sane humans..we should shun religion and politics and adopt Psychology ,money management and position sizing(comment by live nifty) as a "new way of life to nirvana"

@Aarvee and Viren
I am worried not because of comments (I cant figure out what happened)..but it tells me that even veteran traders like you guys still are emotional...that will affect trading as well..I feel trading makes us less emotional over period of time...only thing that should bother us, should be our stop loss nothing else in life

@manu bhai
You always say "tussi na jao" to everyone who tells us that they want to leave...
What is the "success ratio" of this statement(I hope this is not a high beta statement!!)..I would like to adopt it as my strategy to stop people from leaving the guruKOOL
Cheers to universal brotherhood

Babu said...

@Raja......
aioo, aioo you are thinking too much about me:) that much seen is not there with me. Just its 12 points more premium while comparing with march, thats why i did 'roll over'. I don't like to call it as roll-over coz its nothing but 2 trades

Piyush Sharda said...

@rv

my opinion ( if u care about) ur post about viren sir does not do any good to anybody. u have to acknowledge that viren sir is a sensible, knowledgeable and a well mannered person and never has he made personal comments.
i feel ur comments were very harsh.
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when we fight our behaviour shud be such that if we ever become friends again we shudnt be ashamed if it.

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