Monday, March 15, 2010

Nifty Intraday Update-III

90 comments:

KGovind said...

Sir,

I am making changes to sundar TA file. It weill now have all 50 nifty stock + nifty index + bank nifty index + it index.

I am also extending the date from mar 31 to dec 31. So this file can be used for another 9 months without problems.

Very tedious work, but so far I have modified for 27 stock. Before month is over i can make all the changes needed and submit to you.

Sir, bank nifty trade from friday hit stop loss. Very bgad luck as it just touched stop loss level for few mins and then started to rise.

Sir, i own some tcs shares. what i shld do with that now it is rising madly.

Prabhakar said...

Ilango Sir,

Can I keep SL 5160NS for Nifty Future short initiated at 5130 as a conservative trader?

Thanks

youtubeuser said...

Thanks a lot Govind Sir for your effort on updating the files

Rajagopal said...

Arun - Piyush wants your note on 2... stratergy. Kindly keep me in the loop on it. Would like to learn the same.

Babu said...

@Prabhakar,
Just now i exited my last long nifty shorted 25%, i am going to keep stop lose is 5190. Otherwise its becoming intraday trading :)

Unknown said...

nifty dancing in to my tunes

it will fall 20 points now

Tequila said...

I do not recall this tight range of 5 points (NF 5130~5135)especially in the afternoon session ( from 12.30 ). Market waiting for any news ?

Rajib said...

@ to All of Us ... the readers (visible , semi-visible and invisible) ...

Off-market quiz ... What's the following table?

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Ilango said...

Hi..Govind,

Firstly a very warm "Thank you" for your efforts to improve on the files uploaded. It would save a lot of time.

I feel positional trades should have a "closing SL", though I feel it is upto the individual's choice.

"If it is rising madly", you should be happy..!!

Let me check on its TA and update in "Stockwealth" blog. Let me know the kind of period you are willing to hold or any "returns expectation".

Always search for the reasons you bought it...and if they are still valid such as good fundamentals, you must hold them.

youtubeuser said...

rajagopal sir,
I don't have any link to explain that trading. I just tried this link and got the levels to trade. Based on the levels, I did paper trading for a week and it worked out well. now I am doing it as part of regular trading.

My suggestion is to do paper trading based on the levels that you got for this trading (for few days). then apply it in the real world


Let me know if u still has any qs on this

r m said...

@Rajib

I am proud to be one of those 601,702! I hope i have solved your quiz.
:)

sundar said...

I have got a write-up on 2652 theory picked up from somewhere sometime back. I will add it in 4 share today. Thanks

Rajagopal said...

Rajib - Thanks. Great story of success.

youtubeuser said...

Thanks sundar sir

Babu said...

Ilango Sir,
Bajaj Hind.. bought SF@145.10, exited 146.90. Do not want to carry long over night.

Rajagopal said...

Thanks Arun. Will await Sundar's upload.

manu said...

sir
""I feel positional trades should have a "closing SL""

explain closing sl?

Sujatha said...

Ayo kadavule - raj- kuda - swami bangalore - dhano? looks like...- same style.

@ Raj - Nifty is dancing to your tunes.. well. you both can dance in IPL matches... we all will watch..

Rajib said...

so am I, r m sir ... I was just wondering ...

Visible: 25-30 (regular posts)
Semi-visible: 30-35 (once/twice a week)
Invisible: rest 4000!

iLango Sir, Kudos to! ... it's an e-world ... but I just thought for so many days I have been part of so many people! ...

Rajagopal said...

Top Indian vehicle maker Tata Motors' group global sales rose 59 percent in February from a year earlier, the company said in a statement on Monday.
===news.

sundar said...

2652 uploaded. The link is

http://www.4shared.com/file/241551964/a659ac6e/2652_THEORY_OF_DAY_TRADING.html

Unknown said...

theres good addition of 13 lacs OI in 5000 PE followed by 5100 PE with 7.5 lacs...while all the OI positions created since morning in 5100 CE and 5200 CE are liquadated

Rajagopal said...

Babu - Bajaj Hind Short @148 waiting to cover.Thanks for exiting.

Ilango said...

hi..Manu,

We keep a SL based on the last pivot low. Often that low may get broken in intra and subsequently market resumes its original trend and move higher. Hence, positional playes who keep for more than 2 days keep a "Closing SL"..i.e., subsequent close should not be below the SL.

Some of the positional trades initiated in "Stockwealth" blog have hit the intraday the SL but may not hit the closing SL.

Tequila said...

Raj,

Thanks to the frequency of your "tune", Nifty came out of 5030-5036 range. Keep up your "resonance" to bring NF to 5090 levels. Me short :))

Rajagopal said...

Thanks Sundar. Hope the lady in the photo is as quick in blessing me.

manu said...

@indian and Nifty
i miss u both on ths blog..if in invsbl mode ..plz respond..

@rm
sharp brain..

r m said...

Thanks Sundar!

Viren said...

I think that the high for the day is made.

Further downmoves only below 5122 now, but should not exceed 20 points.

Anonymous said...

Hi Raja,

I was making a file similar to urs for all nse stocks. while making it, i tallied results with your file.

They are different in values. for Ex ABB 5-EMA High-EMA Low-EMA

840.47 847.37 829.15
AS PER UR FILE.

But as per my formulas which calculates EMA on close of last 5 days. the values are:-

853.91 853.91 819.25

so can you help me with your formulas and logic behind difference in values.

Thanks.

Sudheer said...

RAJIB
ITS OUR JUST NIFTY'S SITE SUMMARY....!!!!!

Unknown said...

thank you tequila for appreciating me.

i am not a bad guy.i am just straight forward.

sorry if i hurt with my behaviour.my calls gave more than 35 points today
:)

Piyush Sharda said...

well arun sir,

i need ur e amil id . i dont want to post questions here as it might not interest many.

either write ur mail id in reply to this or mail me at piyush_sharda@rediffmail.com.

manu said...

sir
thnx

Tequila said...

Raj,

Your intentions may not be bad, but your comments caused furore as you questioned illango's selfless work. Had it been put in the form of argument, could have led to healthy discussion.

Any how, All the best and more profits to you :))

Viren said...

Just to add to Illango's comments on "closing SL"... I generally use the 3.00 to 3.30 TF to analyse all my positional holds and see if they have held/ broken supports.

I take action on such positions only in the last 30 mins of trade, if my mental stops for these positions have been violated, because as Illango explained, stocks tend to go past our stops during the day only to bounce back.

assortZ said...

I have doubt if my internet is working or not as my terminal shows “ NF - 5133” for long time :)

Unknown said...

tequila it could have been healthier.
i defend my point-no point in trading those.just making brokers rich.

ilango will rectify it.he understood the problem and replied me in detail.
:)

Rajagopal said...

Happy - The formula is the same as you will find in Sundar's/Ilango's tech files. Applying the same if the results are different please let me know. Will mail you the O,H,L,C values of ABB as I have to further validate.
If these values match with yours then I will have to check my output.
Thanks for pointing out the difference.

Babu said...

@assortZ,
hehehe.. nifty is there only for the past 1 hr :)

Babu said...

@Rajagopal,
Exited BajajHind?

DCStrader said...

if 5140 not crossed then a dip should come.
so thats could be be a sl for scalp trade.

manu said...

@ viren sir /illango sir
at 3.28 u square ur positional holds or if ur double minded u do hedging..

as i m always in these situations:)

Babu said...

Sir,
What is the target for Bajaj Hind?

Viren said...

Markets have traded below VAL all day today, indicating sellers in control, but buyers have again supported 5100.

Globally also, US SPX should pullback 20-25 points, but we may not get mauch movement there today becuase of Fed day tomorrow.

So all indicators point to another 5100-5150 day tomorrow.

saravana said...

assortz, you said: "I have doubt if my internet is working or not as my terminal shows “ NF - 5133” for long time :"

It is the solid steel like support which nifty gets by a gang supported by FIIs. whatever you sell it gets absorbed at 5133. nifty will retest its last high of 5300 for sure. me holding long at 5110.

Ilango said...

@Raj,

I have not replied anything in detail. Please do not create any misunderstanding here.

Firstly you are mixing up both the tables. So there is nothing for me to "understand" what is basically your problem.

"velayya panna vidappa..."

Viren said...

Manu,

If you see that during the day, your mental stop for the position is violated then you square off btw 3.00- 3.30,

The hedge is only the insurance for your long position for which you are willing to risk the entire premium for.(that's the proper definition of a hedge)

Eg long 5000 unitech stock
Long Unitech put at proper strike

Ilango said...

@Babu,

If there is a +ve div, it should retrace a minimum to the area the +ve div started developing. Accordingly, the minimum target should be 165 to 180.

assortZ said...

Saravana,

thanks for SWEET words (I mean -5300)..

BTW if you get any reply or source for your metastock query raised today morning, please post a link or comment..tks

Piyush Sharda said...

viren sir below val or below vah?

assortZ said...

"velayya panna vidappa..."

இளங்கோ,

பொà®±ுà®®ை அவசியம்தான்..ஆனாலுà®®் நீà®™்க à®°ொà®®்ப பொà®±ுà®®ை :)

manu said...

thnx
viren
lot size unitech is 4500
i do hedging always as i burnt all my pants(ws not wearing chaddi) in jan 22 2008..:)

mo h said...

Mr Ilango,
Thats one group of people with plenty of idle time on their hands. Each day one come across such in everyday life & learn to ignore as it deserves. They will write in tandem. Let us ignore the imbecile juveniles.
with regards

KGovind said...

Sir,

tcs i bought 102 shares in ipo for rs 850/share. i did not sell last time when it went to 1390. actually i placed order to sell for 1400 (35 PE)in jan 2007 when results were very good, but pure bad luck that share only touched 1390 and startedfalling to 410.

sir, money comes into kalla only when it is only sold. even if stock is running madly now i do not want the stock to go from 800 to 300 again.

Sir,

on ur suggestion I bought 350 Hindustan sugar at 144.05 and it has already gone up 5 rs.

sundar sir,

i am continuing modification with ur TA file. i have included all 50 stock. also i am extending file to be useful till dec 31,2010. once changes r made i will send u email.

Raja sir,

how r u/

Unknown said...

ilango sir what i am mixing up

today nifty dancing in to my tunes.my calls worked out well, you are jallous about me.
third short call also in 10 points profit.today total 45 points gain.



i never visit here.

Babu said...

sir,
enterted again bajhind.. :)

mo h said...

yeah, we are "jallous" of the idiocy.
go keep earning, instead of wasting our time here.
scram off.
we have understood your motive.

Sunny said...

dera sir ilangiji
today bank nifty may be close below daily 5- ema and daily high ema so hten site with sell side for positional 2-3 days ?
ragards,
alpesh

Prabhakar said...

Dear Ilango Sir,

I have short position in NF at 5130. Can I carry for tomorrow with SL 5160 NS?

Thanks

Babu said...

"jallous"... this word reffers to 2 people. One who typed in chat and nother who pasted in our blog. So raj is one of them :)

Tequila said...

Raj,

You might be a "I am ok-you are not ok" type kid or a great actor :))

Live to your promise dude :))

Piyush Sharda said...

@prabhakar,

its positional call so obviously u shud

Unknown said...

those who have brain can clearly see stock wealth blog strategy.

it is fake.

ilango is jallous about traders who try to beat them.

AAR VEE said...

@Raj
“A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip”

I am not a diplomat so I can only say to you with folded hands is to go to hell.

Bye,regards.

Sujatha said...

@ Ilango sir - to raj - what is basically ur problem, he himself is a problem sir. pleaseee ignore... we all know about you... no question of misunderstanding..

@ assortz - don't talk about Ilango sir's porumai.. OMG - me fed up with Ilango sir's patience... and learnt a lot..

@ Rajagopal - "Karumame Kannayinar" today :) he just ignored raj i think..

mo h said...

we are here for Ilango's writeups.
those not interested can go to blogs of their choice.
people here are for Ilango, not for anyoneelse.

KGovind said...

Sir,

surely nifty is closing abovce 5 EMA of 5125. Is it safe to still carry shorts for tomorrow ?

Babu said...

"jallous"... this word reffers to 2 people. One who typed in chat and nother who pasted in our blog. So raj is one of them :)... got it who are they?:)

mo h said...

the idiot is occuppying the EOD time.
ignore the idiot.

satheesh said...

Raj for once you have spoken right. Only "PEOPLE WITH BRAINS" can understand the stock wealth blog strategy. you have proved as the other one.:) :)

Today for eg., if you were long intatasteel you could have booked profits at 614-616. then short again for intraday at 614 now it is 609-610. you could have booked out profits.

DCStrader said...

Raj

good that ur earned.
c Ilango's never claimed his system is best but its definatly one o the best being shared & taught.
can u do the same.i think no.

Unknown said...

satheesh
conservative sl hit

making broker rich

Sunny said...

dera sir ilangiji
today bank nifty may be close below daily 5- ema and daily high ema so hten site with sell side for positional 2-3 days ?
ragards,
alpesh

sundar said...

Govind,

Congrats. Great work. But I'm worried about the file size if you make it work till end December. It will be huge and sometimes, when you download huge files, they get corrupted.

Good luck Govind

assortZ said...

@sujatha..i meant “porumai” means..Mr.Ilango don’t need to reply to FRIEND ..if it was me, I would have blasted like anything to our FRIEND:)

Viren said...

Piyush,

below VAL, (but below VAL is also below VAH):)

Rajagopal said...

"jallous" - spelling used by some other name.

Sujatha - Pazhutha maram kalladi padum.
Suriyanai paarthu naai kolaicha ?
Dushtanai kandal doora vilagu.
aamaiyil mosamanathu Poramai.

satheesh said...

Raj, Stoploss is the concept of reducing our losses. If you can point out trades without likelyhood of hitting stoploss you must have been the richest person!!! May be warren buffet must take tuition from you.

Arunima said...

pls use common language english!
can't understand!!!

DCStrader said...

Rajagopal

ur right abt that spelling.

007
:P

Arunima said...

radha = raj = ... more to come... diff name same person. :-)

mo h said...

blogmates
we are already familiar with "jallous". This is delinquents with longings for overnight fame in shortcut with no hardwork trying to rob away others glory. Let us make it clear to these swines we are not for them, and our purpose here is TradeNiftyOnlyOnIlangoSayings. And, lets not allow these pigs to rob away the trading hours, and lets answer them after trades. Yes, they will comeback to read our comments. Thats their weakness. They are morons with no stuff, imitating to be behemoths. Otherwise why would anyone waste precious time like this.
with regards.

Piyush Sharda said...

viren sir,

Markets have traded below VAL all day today, indicating sellers in control,

gautam sir told today's values as 5132 5115 5098 vah poc val

it was trading above 5098 and around 5132 so trading below vah

Rajagopal said...

Raj - Great work. Thank you,you made very dear names to appear today - aarvee,mok...

Keep barking. Even dogs take shelter in this temple. Many came trying to dirty the place - the sanctity and devotees will not be spoiled.

arunima - just a few old Tamil proverbs friend.

Rajagopal said...

Ref Mok:

Yes friends. Exactly why I request you not publish your mail ids. I am getting un-warranted mail claiming y'day's call success. (Did not get the call y'day).

Let's NOT fall prey to illicit-poachers.

mo h said...

"translating" rajaG tamil proverbs:
wolf howling at moon does not change the moon.
keep trouble 10foot away.
lousiest louse is "jallosy"

:)

mo h said...

rajaG
yeah, thats why i never put emailID in blogs.
appreciate your point.
:)

Viren said...

"viren sir,

Markets have traded below VAL all day today, indicating sellers in control,

gautam sir told today's values as 5132 5115 5098 vah poc val

it was trading above 5098 and around 5132 so trading below vah"

Piyush,

Can't comment on Gautam's values.

But these are the value areas for tomorrow:

5137-5136-5127.

Over the years I have found that different softwares give different values. The truth is that the correct values depend on the accuracy of the data provided.Tick data will provide you a different value as compared to 1 minute or 5 minute data.

I use tick data as my data feed becuase it captures all the volume of all trades accurately. I am aware that NSE does not provide accurate trades per tick, but actually a snapshot of what trades take place.So even my values may not be a 100 % accurate projection of actual value, but rest assured that the deviation is not much.

satheesh said...

Viren,

When the range is so small almost limited within 10-15 points, how do you trade them as per MP method. Please clarify. Can these values be used alsong with the previous day values? please explain.

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