Monday, March 22, 2010

Nifty Intraday Update-II

62 comments:

Niftybaaz said...

GA to Respected Illango sir and all other blogmates

@illango sir
I am short in banknifty @9225 as per stockwealth table ......sir you are requested to please alert me if you see any twist in that pleaseeeeeeee.....sier can i short nifty too at current levels

regards
vikram

Rajagopal said...

Mok - More please. My printer is rolling.

RV9 - Noted.Thanks. My query rose due to the fact that option bought for Rs 10 for a script trading at 700 falls below Rs 10 even if the script goes above 700 after couple of sessions. Is it the Time Decay that I understood and expressed?

mo h said...

@ RG
I wil try to put more EOD, after the thread expires, so that others will not be disturbed or distracted.

Mainly I put it to dilute the arguements between people... like putting a broad wedge between their posts. To cool off the situation.

Ilango said...

@ Vikram,

It was a long call - Buy @ 9165 and sell @ 9225.

As BN is in uptrend, I have not given a sell call.

I may not be present most of the time due to other personal commitments. Always have your trading plan ready before taking the plunge.

Also notice in the table, I have given only a SL for the long.

Take your profits. I will state when the coast is clear for a good sell.

AAR VEE said...

@RG,

Ya,its the time (couple of sessions)that decayed the price(from rs.10 to below it.)even though price rosed.

assortZ said...

sir,

entered short at 5256..noted that we need to trade the range which has been discussed...will do so..however pls clarify can we still enter into conservative short as per pre-market view to hold till expiry..

Rajagopal said...

Though Dubai debt woes are forgone issue, latest is a 8 years repayment schedule extension demanded by Dubai.

Will it have any impact on Euro/US-Banking and markets?

Ilango said...

@ Rajagopal,

You have understood the most important as well as the most basic of Options. Many use this "Time decay" to their advantage once a scrip is "OB" & stretched with trend remaining firm but a likely sideways consolidation.
Everyday around 2.30PM onwards this time decay gets impacted into the prices.

Your earlier wish of "Options trading" in a laymen's language is due. I will work on it.

Rajagopal said...

Thanks RV9. One day TMF gave almost double return on call and when I tried holding next time, it evoporated. My RM couldn't explain. Then I understood the Time Factor.(Still people do treat Call as a script to raise with time - right?). I am confused in it.

mo h said...

@ viren
NFF 5252 & 5235 are the max volumes.
Plz tell us the impact.

HDFC & ICICI are the major pulldowns on Nifty

Viren said...

Mok,

5235 is developing POC.
One can initiate shorts there. However be aware that buyers have shown up previously at 5220 thereabouts.

mo h said...

@viren

Ok,thanks. So, can look for a possibly 10+ point. 5220 has too many pointers to it as such.

satheesh said...

Good Afternoon IlangoSir and all

Sir, can the short initiated at 5257 be considered as conservative short or should it be covered if intraday low support persists for intraday? or as mentioned in pre-mkt view if closing is around 5020 then c/f the shorts?

Rajagopal said...

Thank you Ilango. It would be a blessing.
Calls and Puts are full of ifs and buts.
Will not venture in ignorance. (Already Gods are objecting for putting them under pressure-he obliged thro' RBI with the last Short).

AAR VEE said...

@RG

A humble request to a fine trader:
You are good at 'scalping' people(sorry, prices).leave options for some time and study their movements in particular scripts you are interested(u must be doing that already)EOD.each has its own IV and other associated factors.then come prepared with a plan ,preferably hedged to 'slaughter' options(no need to 'scalp 'them ,they themselves are dying due to your 'time decay')

KGovind said...

Viren sir

Can u please confirm if your 5235 level to short is Nifty March Future or Nifty Index ?

Deepak said...

Dear Friends - based on my earlier analysis i went long on nifty at 5249 - however to save my position i have also purchased nifty 5400 put at 152.50 - please advice if my strategy is correct - regards Deepak

Rajagopal said...

Accepted AR9.(read your mind in my response to Ilango). Some of the Beggars make more money than middle/upper level execs !!!
Won't mind to be one as long as I can money.

But if my daughter asks for an option-tantra story at bed time?

Rajagopal said...

Sorry RV9 - sorry for mis-spelling.

Piyush Sharda said...

govind viren sir talks in nifty future terms

Viren said...

Thanks Piyush.
Yes Govind future march.

Rajagopal,

Where did you pick up the Dubai info from?

Rajagopal said...

ET today Viren. A write up is there.

Piyush Sharda said...

nifty closes below day hema. but there is hidden bullish divergence. maybe we wont fall today

KGovind said...

thank u for clarification to both piyush and viren.

mo h said...

@ navneet,

if you dont mind me telling so:
You are a professional, running your own Paid blog.
Now, this blog is Freely Run by Mr.Ilango and all of us enjoy comaraderie here.
So, as a honorary visitor I wish you would stick to nonarguements.
We are all Anonymous faceless participants in the internet world. Let us not beat up ego & bring up continuing frictions. None of us are better than another. So, no point all of us trying to be oneup over another.
Let us be friendly.
Remember, you got your own blog.
But, we have & enjoy only Here.
Thanks.
with regards

Piyush Sharda said...

@rv great learning frm ur option posts today. thats y i call u rv sir. u wrote that each stock has different iv charecteristics so we need to study them. can one imply that study and trade of options shud ideally start frm nifty bcos it will be much simpler

Viren said...

Navneet,

5200 CE Buy qty is now reduced to 388600 from 469000, when I posted sometime back on the blog.

So my point of CE buyers driving up price has been proven.

Now as you can see they are squaring off.

My decision to initiate a sell was when I saw price rejected at POC ( recorded on the blog). I had also made a mention on the blog about closing longs from morning or keeping SL at 4242.

AAR VEE said...

@piyush

just a small clarification-stocks donot have different IV ,its the options we trade in that have them ,which keeps on changing depending on stock and market conditions.

trade only the scripts which have options that are traded in volumes/liquid,so that u get good entry prices and dont get stuck while selling

Rajagopal said...

Is Euro Tunes early today? 2.30 + RIL +/- BNIFTY = Fate(Rajagopal)

Niftybaaz said...

respected MOK

very well said man...i agree with u 100%

dear navneet ...please dont take it otherwise and pl. we need your guidance also ...but in the same way how others guide here us all

regards
vikram

Viren said...

Mok,

Let it be. He mentioned it was non-personal,but we can all see it as other-wise.

I am happy to answer all questions.

Niftybaaz said...

rajagopal sir,

Is Euro Tunes early today? 2.30 + RIL +/- BNIFTY = Fate(Rajagopal)

i coundnt get this pl. calarify....i need to know this for my positions

regards

Rajagopal said...

Viren - Thanks for the response. There was a request also. I am normally good in estimates.

SMALLTRADER said...

Dear RAJAGOPAL SIR,

SMALL CLARIFICATION TATA NANO IS BURSTED CAN WE GO SHORT IN TATA MOTORS

Rajagopal said...

Europe opens -ve.(RM).
===
Vikram - one of the worst (Short) trades rescued. Now as the greedy human, want profit.
Rescued with a series of wrong trades. ...same Boat???

Rajagopal said...

Small Trader - Must you risk Now?

Viren said...

Where's manu,

Unitech is been taken to the cleaners, my friend?

Viren said...

Hope you are short for your sake.

Rajagopal said...

"Pulavargalukkul sarchai varalam. Sandai varakkudathu" - one old Movie dialogue. (The learned can argue but must not fight). A King advises a Poet and Lord Shiv in this scene.

My humble request to all learned ones to read this.

manu said...

@viren

i m following sir style trading in unitec:)
i even cut off my hedges:)
lets c wht happns ..raja too ws in the same boat:(

Rajagopal said...

Viren - I and Sathish(think) are Short in Unitec. Please advise if you spot the S&R signal.

mo h said...

So you are Navneet the coolguy, AK Prabakar's colleague, tanmoy, rishtrader, etc.....
seminars, .... etc...

I can't believe it, i never expected this.
I expected a more matured person.

Getting to wonder now.

Rajagopal said...

Manu - jumped bail for Rs 770 on Friday. Went Short since beta was unsteady.

===
Lots of Luv to daughter. Will send something that she will enjoy and copy.

ramsfm said...

NS is below LEMA, shorts are safe at this stage? and can we consider positional shorts what we initiated above 5250+

manu said...

@raja
no same attack fr unitech:(
i will be buying more nw keeping a sl 67(sir sl 69)

better u cvr nw..
lol frm my d too:)

Rajagopal said...

Ok Manu. Will cover by 2.45 trend.

Sure of Long? Can I go?

Piyush Sharda said...

nifty hs broken in 5 min, bullish divergence. premium so large profift being eaten away

Rajagopal said...

5220 spot is Strong - must hit with a 2.40 Axe?

Short covering calls are flying (Nifty intra-shorts)

manu said...

@raja
u r n mumbai..c whr r real estate prices..
ipo also going 2 list..

firm congress ..firm RE stocks...
and most imp..

they are nw ripe fr a jump ..a big one..

Babu said...

@manu,
My unitech short @74.60... and my target is 68 :)

manojag said...

@ MOK....
pl keep it non personal.
Thanks and best

MK RAVIKUMAR said...

dear sir, RIL trend up or down please indicate

manu said...

@ babu:)

@sir
nw plz guide on unitech..ur sl 69 intact or r u adding positions

mo h said...

sure, manoj

thanks.

Babu said...

@manu,
i think you can go long on unitech coz Raj 2.30 will come :) mine is conservative.. so i don't trade. i feel you will get uo to 72.50 then u can short again may be

Rajagopal said...

Manu - I am in Chennai. Visit Mumbai once a month.

Is real estate recovering? Will go for Unitec at S&R.

2 to 2.30 recovery on. Mr 2.30 don't cheat.

Saif said...

US futures are a percent down...

manu said...

@ babu
seems this conservative call is urs and nt sirs..

as all conservatives wr long on uni friday..if i hd idea of rbi(raja didnt disclose:() must hav hedged..

Rajagopal said...

Small Trader - Nano is obliging you mate. Good Luck.

Ilango said...

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SMALLTRADER said...

DEAR RAJAGOPAL SIR,

Thanks sir, can we go long in sesagoa

SMALLTRADER said...

Dear Rajagopal Sir,

Every month(27th-04TH &15TH)TATA MOTORS IS MOVING LIKE ANYTHING BUT REST OF THE DAYS ITS MELTINGS ITS ONLY HISTORICAL DATA RESULTS

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