Thursday, January 19, 2012

Nifty Intraday Update-I

If you want to succeed in stock market, know this: There is no perfect method/ system. You may improve upon the existing one to reduce whipsaws/ make better entry & exit or create a new system based on your own parameters.
The problem with the labelled "Perfect system" is that it makes you get into a complacent mode with a sense that your system will take care of results. Wrong. System stays wherever it is. You have to work with it. You have to manage your emotions of fear and greed. Fear always work when your system says buy (and in some cases sell) and greed when your system says sell.
If I can not make money with the most basic "Close price + 5dema or 5 dsma", then I'm not ready to use the next level system...& then on to more sophisticated systems.
Whatever system you choose, understand first how it works & whys of it and once you believe in it, never deviate from it.
I'm not an expert at certifying anybody's system. If it makes money for you, it certifies itself.
I have chosen a system and I do not want to look away from it. And you should also choose yours and stay loyal to it.
(Whenever I see enthusiasm in readers about a new system, I feel sad that they have failed to apply themselves with the ones they know of. This is not to discourage anyone from finding a new method which is better than the existing ones. But this is an honest observation of mine that most will never admit to their own shortcomings in handling a system but end up blaming the system. Hasn't JNSAR delivered 700 points in just 19 days this year or a minimum 300 points which is 30% return on a capital of Rs.50,000 in 19 days. You could sit and work the same magic with J10SAR and so many other methods)
All I emphasise here is that "Work at yourself and display everyday...every hour how you handle the market with your applied knowledge"...there is no shortage of systems. If you don't realise this soon enough, your running will never stop.


44 comments:

Yogavidya by Parimal Devnath said...

another great teaching from the Master!! what did we do to earn this good luck!
gratitude to Master

ashwin kumar said...

@Dinesh Sir,

Can you explain more about below post.
Dinesh Rishi said...
mynac

if there is short covering,

means pitch for the match is being prepared :D
January 19, 2012 9:37 AM

golfdude said...

Posting 'nifty guess' poll again. Click Here

Please dont think I am spamming here. I created this
just to see what the user group here thinks of market
direction. If ilango sir adds something like this to
his blog, I will not post my link here. Or if ilango
sir asks me to stop posting this, I will definitely.
In my mind, I think of this to help our user group.

Nakshatra said...

One more awesome article from master.

Thanks sir for sharing your exp.

Unknown said...

Thank you sir

Dinesh Rishi said...

ashwin kumar

it has no significance,
thats Y did not replied earlier

it was addressed to mynac

Plz read his reply

mynac said...
Dear DR,yes,it’s too early to say so yet
nevertheless the symptoms are suggesting the same.

mynac said...

Dear GD,
It’s yet too early to say so because still long 5 trading days to go for the same and as today unexpectedly in first Hr.when there is almost 10lac addition in Jan 5000 PE and probably 10lac deletion in NF O.I. which shall be confirmed after EOD,it has become more tougher.
Up to this Hr.,as we know here that for this series Bears are in pain ,as NF O.I. has started to shed after EOD.At present Bulls are dictating market in spite of slightly over bought conditions here,as well as we know, huge financial interests are directly related to this business,so, for saving themselves, both parties can act wildly, so waiting here for more time to pass further.

golfdude said...

@mynac - poll was only for day. Not for month end. I
am hoping this to be a daily poll.

Anil said...

@mynac

i think now onwards, expiry jitters will be in place,
bcoz institutions finding themselves on opppsote side,
buy-sell in cash to offset futures position...now onwards it will be game of big players...to tilt market in their favours...to roll to next series...

mynac said...

Dear GD Oh.I see, sorry I was not aware of the same.

shriram said...

Good morning Illango ji,

Guess your advice is for me specifically :-)

Thank u. I just got an idea ysday after discussion wid all blog members & ur feedback as well.
Wotever came to mind looked convincng , hence posted for your evaluation

Have Loaded the Modified Algo @ my Blog with a VISUAL.
Request pls do review it in ur free time @ a weekend :-)

urs
SMO

Unknown said...

"If you don't realize this soon enough,
your running will never stop."

mynac said...

Dear Anil,very true, and so only guessing/anticipating has become more tough.

Asha said...

Goodmorning Ilango Sir and all the Blogmates!
Thank you very much for the wonderful article.

AU said...

Bhagwaan
system banane walon ki atma ko shanti de!
Someone said (its believed Roussoue) that man is born free
but every where he is in chains.
I have observed 2 kinds of dogs one freaky and one sober
the freaky one even if he is unchained behaves in freaky manner.
i want to develop this thought in market perspective, any contributions...?

mynac said...

And disclaimer from my side :
Following TT & price only ,because I believe in Dear Ilango’s following quote i.e. TT colours don't lie...shakira's hips may as she ages.(16th Dec.)
Thanks,and Bye everybody,

Nifty futures said...

wow, this is what makes YOU special Ilango Sir, Putting things in a perspective that is a true reflection of ones abilities, just Loved the way you have framed the whole write up,GOD Bless...

jayant singh said...

Merry go round till now ....in Dineshji's words
Banghead Day!!!

Nakshatra said...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/drreddy19012012.jpg/

Thanks

golfdude said...

@shriram - do you mind organizing ur post ( with headers, some underlines and some ul/li html stuff )
so that it is more readable. Already complex enough.
Readability will help.

Hitendra said...

Dear Sir,

11 am update pl.

Hitendra said...

Still at day high ... no weakness so far.

saravanan said...

sir pl make our comment background in white[now in light green]

Market lover said...

@dinesh, SAm & Mehak
please go back to the past what i posted here
Market lover said...
A sharp recovery expected today now after this jerk
and can see yesterdays high
jassi98@gmail.com
January 6, 2012 11:29 AM
I predicted the rally much more before so called TA were doing

http://tradeinniftyonly.blogspot.com/2012/01/nifty-premarket-view_06.html
I follow astrology to predict market, if the auther asked me , not to
post based on Astro analysis , surely avoid it

shr said...

Good morning Sir and friends.
Sir, thanks for reinforcing the trust for a particular system. I am in an endless battle for the the prefect one...
Also reminds me again that the best stock is the one we already own, yet I keep in search of the needle in the haystack.

shriram said...

@ GD...
Sorry for the bad housekeeping :-D

Will do it on the Weekend if u dont mind , weekdays a lil difficult juggling wid ofc work :-)

Did u go thru it ?

urs
SMO

Dinesh Rishi said...

Jassi

You are my very Old friend of VFM days

& I know you and your trading style

Bejan Daruwal is sufficient for us to predict market


http://img.india-forums.com/wallpapers/1024x768/101311-salman-khan-with-bejan-daruwalla-in-bigg-boss-4.jpg

Hitendra said...

Jassi,
hv u posted after 6/1 & outcome of prediction?

San said...

NIFTY Hour and 15 Minutes chart : CLICK HERE

golfdude said...

@shriram - wondering isnt d2y/d2x of y=a*X^2 + b*X + C
just a constant ( 2a ).

San said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
shriram said...

D2y/dx2 = Rate of Change of Rate of Change (Slope) !!

It will give a NUMERICAL VALUE (constant as u say) @ a defined pt (x1,y1)
d2y/dx2 is an EARLY WARNING SYSTEM!
If this NUMBER is 0 , it means SLOPE (dy/dx) is SAME
If this NUMBER is +ve , it means SLOPE (dy/dx) is INCREASING

If dy/dx SLOPE itself changes SIGN, then it means DIRECTION change (no need to see d2y/dx2)

Its a std parabolic quadratic eq. Line following algo used frequently in image processing
GANN just called it Sq of 9s , becoz he visaulised the Golden Spiral like a Square :-)

cheers

shivakumar mahendrakar said...

perfect!

golfdude said...

@shriram - how ? unless 'a' changes for every point. But
given a quadratic equation, second derivative is constant.
So we know the sign even before it starts. Let us take
this discussion on ur blog.

Ilango said...

I like surprises...I do not wish to know what will happen tomorrow or next week.
My life is challenging but very interesting.

Accordingly, I desist from predicting. And I follow the market. And I find it very rewarding with doses of pleasant surprises, one being the "Upper freeze of the Market itself". Did anyone predict it...? But following the market, we were part of that history.

Predict..you'll perish.

Follow...you'll flourish.

Rising Star said...

Is the mkt closed on 26th? if yes, is the expiry on 25th?

golfdude said...

@ilango sir,

The last two lines...cool.

shriram said...

Illango ji,

2nd GDs words, last 2 lines r too cool..

Very Happy i found this Blog :-)))))

urs
SMO

Dinesh Rishi said...

If in search of Holi Grail, dig deeper not wider

There is no indicator which can be plotted
without price

better follow price like Hutch dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRpsEtVdVxI&feature=related

Prabhakar said...

@Rising Star: Expiry is on 25th only

Sringesh said...

These words of wisdom makes one believe in himself. Thanks to the Master. Thanks also to those who trigger to these green boxes appear.

SAM said...

I think now ....Jassi got the point.. after Sir's
Explaination.

We at JN mostly follow TA(Prices)...

If astro is there... then one can Just do one Exercise.

For one month stay AWAY from screen, prices, TA, News
Channels, Internet(Everything related to markets giving
information about prices.)

And then just make paper trades.. on the basis of STARS(only)
And see what happens.

Ilango said...

New Post Done.

Ram Charan said...

Sam- although you dont need certificate from me, but i have noticed your msges are more mature and sounds wise. You have come a long way. Cheers.

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